Forum - View topicREVIEW: Owarimonogatari Second Season
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Parsifal24
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I liked the second half more than the two part first half although Nisio Isin's writing style will never be something I find enjoyable the visuals in this have moments of greatness.
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Angel M Cazares
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I found Owarimonogatari S2 solid overall, and the conclusion was appropriate. My big question is and what about Zoku-Owarimonogatari? Based on the title (I don't read the novels) I assume that Zoku-Owari is the actual conclusion to the third season?
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MarshalBanana
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So is this the actual end? Because I thought before that Koyomimonogatari was the end.
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Zhou-BR
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I was pleasantly surprised by how conclusive and satisfying Ougi Dark was, because I was expecting it to leave some unresolved stuff for the next arc to deal with. Zoku Owarimonogatari must be just an epilogue then.
There's just one thing I'm not sure I understood: the bit about Hanekawa "selling off part of her brains". I took it to mean she's now working for the organization that provided her with that plane, but this being Monogatari and all, I wonder if she might have meant that literally. |
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Harleyquin
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Zoku = Fun what-if story. Off-season = Stories expanding the series. Musubi notably focusing on events in the future. Monster season = New arc starting with Shinobumonogatari. Very new, only the first novel published to date. 4-5 novels planned for this season. New characters, new timeline. |
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TasteyCookie
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This was easily my favorite single Monogatari season as a whole. I thought it was easily the best visual directing of the series. The imagery in Mayoi hell was much more vivid and abstract, as it was also dealing with some of the more abstract themes, ranging in tone to balance out the childlike relationship with Hachikuji and the seriousness of Hell. Whereas Ougi dark was much more subdued, giving absolute focus to the characters involved. It never felt like too much, or too little.
I'm also extremely impressed with how well it concluded the story. It leads to how great a writer Niso Isin is, to seemingly address almost every major open thread so cleanly. At least we can almost guarantee we get the spin-off stories animated at some time as well, which I'll be looking forward to. Also on the plus side, it's currently the highest rated series on MAL. It will go down of course, but still damn impressive and well-deserved. |
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relyat08
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Mayoi Hell, by itself, was masterful. And the overall season did a fantastic job of concluding the entire franchise. I suspect we'll probably get Zoku, I think they even already confirmed that, but I'd be more than happy if this is the last of animated Monogatari. For one thing, it'd save me a lot of money if I don't feel the need to buy any more of these AoA releases, lol, but narratively, it's also just the perfect conclusion. If more is animated, I might just exclude it from my collection and simply watch it streaming.
I think I'd rather have some Shinobumonogatari, personally, if we get more animated. Or I guess most of those would be fine. But a totally new series in the same world, with different characters would be pretty amazing. And feel a lot more fresh than more of our current group. |
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12skippy21
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I would really like to see Hitagi and Araragi at University. In terms of dynamic they are my favourite anime couple and it will be a shame not to see them together as they grow up.
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Covnam
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So it's finally over? I can finally start watching without concern that the story is going to be continued in a series that gets announced next week?
Also, I know the general viewing order is simply anime release order, but with it out (and from what I've read, planned to come out earlier), is it better to watch Kizumonogatari after Bakemonogatari as it was done with the LNs? Thanks. |
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DuskyPredator
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Even if more stories are going to come out after this to be animated, it really feels like this is the end of the journey we started on. Maybe even worth mentioning Hanamonogatari which was actually set after Owarimonogatari, had Suruga as the main character and felt separate from the Koyomi adolescence journey.
These last arcs felt like a kind of perfect send off as a look back at the journey he has made, a promise of what he had to come, and a look at who he is now. It was actually kind of a surprise how the second one finished with Ougi spoiler[I think hinting that she feels alone, and I would say cry for hope]. And that this kind of went the way him spoiler[doing the one thing he was meant to do from the beginning, which was to help and like himself]. |
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relyat08
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No, that's not a guarantee. In fact, it's likely more will be animated. But this is the end of the real core story, in most regards. So I would recommend starting now if you have been waiting for it to finish. Even if other related work is still animated. You can decide if you want to consume those when the time comes, I guess.
I would recommend Kizumonogatari after Bake. You can do it either way, really, and your experience won't suffer much for it, but Kizu directly after Bake makes the most sense to me. And I think that's how it was originally intended. |
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aifhak
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to answer a couple questions in here:
In actuality the production for the next series has already been announced together with the most recent book that appeared, stating that they've already started production (whatever that means, probably planning stages on how to adapt). That was a statement about Off-season and not Zoku or Monster-season though. As far as I know there's no word out on what happens with Zokuowarimonogatari. I expect it to be some kind of special because it's just 1 vol and just won't fill a full season but I'm sure we're going to get that eventually as well. Monster season is supposed to be a new chapter of the series the same way season1-3 were one. There's not 4-5 vols to it, it's exactly 6 like season1, season2 and season3 had as well. I haven't gotten my hands on it yet so can't really tell what it's like. Off-season was the only thing that didn't follow the usual 6-vol-per-season pattern. Yes, this is the ending to this chapter of the story and concludes pretty much everything we've seen getting animated so far. I'd treat Zoku as an extra. I'd honestly expect the guy to continue writing for another 10+ years at this point and don't really see him ending it unless he has to. Like I said, I don't know what Monster-season is like yet and there's always the chance that it just won't take off but I wouldn't count on that. I'm sure it's still going to sell even if it ends up being mediocre. And finall my own take on it: I personally thought this was one of the strongest moments for Monogatari so far. To me this was a very satisfying end with very few low points inbetween. The Date between Senjyougahara and Araragi was good, Mayoi hell looked absolutely stunning and the confrontation between Ougi and Araragi was really nicely done for me if we're talking about looks and OST. That being said, everyone's different and especially with this everyone I talk to ends up having different arcs as their favorite. Be it because they like different characters or one specific story just resonated more with them and I for example couldn't care less about Hanamonogatari that was mentioned in the review (yes I know it was only brought up for production quality reason but I took it as him liking it as well) //Oh about the Kizumonogatari question: I'd agree, Bakemonogatari and then Kizumonogatari sounds best to me. We had to wait for years to get it but Bake1->Bake2->Kizu->Nise1->Nise2->Neko:kuro is what it originally was and if you can do it that way I recommend that order as well. Certainly don't do Kizu before Bakemonogatari just because it happens before Bake in-universe. If you really want to suffer like we did you can skip it and watch it mid season-3 like us though 
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Sahmbahdeh
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This was a very good ending to the series, but I think I may have gotten more out of it if I could remember more of the stuff it dealt with; it's been a while since I've seen most of the Monogatari series.
Visually, Mayoi Hell was definitely the best one, but the others were at least fine. Regarding the writing, I will admit I am impressed by how everything was so nicely tied up, making it seem like a cohesive whole, but I found the dialogue largely draining. The looping back on itself, the excessive wordiness for it's own sake, the blatant self-indulgence... It's great when the characters are just casually talking with each other, but whenever the plot shows up and someone starts expositing, my eyes kind of glazed over. I guess I just have to admit I'll never completely like his writing style. |
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Covnam
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Thanks relyat08 & aifhak =)
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