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Cam0
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I don't get much out of the revenge aspect since the main character is the only guy I'd really want to see get his due. I don't like this show, but I'm slightly struggling with whether this show is just meant to be like an extension of a porn fantasy and not to be really taken all that seriously, or if the author really wanted to tell a story where everything sucks, life sucks, humanity sucks and there is no goodness in the world. This show made me think of a trailer for a video game called Hatred which starts off with like a dude arming himself and narrating something like "I just f***ing hate this world and the human worms feasting on its carcass. My whole life has just been cold bitter hatred" and so on. It's a game about being a literal mass shooter.
I get mild chuckles out of how absurdly depraved this show is, but it puts so much devotion into its worldbuilding that the extremely bitter worldview that seeps through the show's story comes off as disturbingly sincere. |
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Yttrbio
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I think the original work is probably sincere in a way, though the wall between sincerity and parody for these kinds of shows is basically nonexistent, considering how iterative and meme-driven they are. But I don't have any obligation to share the author's mindset, so I'm enjoying it as a comedy.
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What's a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny bit interesting to me is that obviously a large part of the author's juice for creating this story is to vibe on the fantasy of having a harem of females crave you sexually (I'm setting aside the revenge stuff for the moment). Yet by the same token I get the sense that the show itself disapproves of the MC's actions which goes a little against the harem fantasy. Perhaps the author was clever enough to understand that throwing shade at his protogonist(?) was a good defence against accusations of out and out pandering and approval of "rape as revenge."
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 11
So, yeah, he drugged three men to rape the lesbian and literally eat her alive. I know that she was written to be a terrible person that apparently drugging women and apparently doing acts that would break the women, and I think a bit of tricking the women that she is a man. But this this feels like some sort of crossing a border. It is like the earlier episode where he turned the guy into a femine form with boobs but possible still a penis, and then burned him to death while he was being raped by men. I think there is something rather uncomfortable here that I can't help but read into the author. |
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Embrace the trash, DP, embrace the trash! Become a horrible person like me!
Sadly, ANN's "My Anime" rating system doesn't have an appropriate choice for this show. It would have to be something along the lines of: Putrid, watching even a frame of this garbage will make you question your basic humanity |
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DuskyPredator
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Episode 12 (finale)
Its over, it is really over. Someone promise to kick me if I try to continue with this if a second season season comes out. To talk about the final episode, he captures the younger princess, who I have to presume is a few years younger than the main cast that are already not very old. He threatens to erase her mind and create a new persona, unless she wins a game of not climaxing, by having her brainwashed sister violate her while in pet play, because of course she was actually in love with her sister all along. So I think that he is trying to act as some sort of giving a chance as he screw the sister on top of her, and not violating her directly, but considering everything he totally is directly violating her. And after winning he brainwashes her into thinking she is his long lost sister, and of course wants to fudge him. They just have a good jolly orgy at the end. Along with signs of gay pedo priest black man, ejaculating on his wanted poster. This show vile, but also morbidly fascinating. Like those times you want to look up porn, but normal stuff is not doing it for you so you search the most disgusting things that pop in your head, convince yourself it will be fine, and then hate yourself afterwards. That is this show. An aspect that is so fascinating is that the writing show clear evidence that it knows the main character is a disgusting piece of trash, but also does not know it at the same time. Like he will laugh manically like a teenage edgelord who's voice is just cracking and says swears around his friends, but other times frame him like he is great and smart and actually looking out for good people. But also maybe hint that he actually wants things like a person he is pretending to be his friend to get killed, so he can have an excuse to be the villain he wants to be. The big problems with maybe if there is some tongue in cheek elements of wanting to make him look ridiculous for thinking that he is any way a good person, is that I don't think a good deal of people who might watch this might catch those bits. I think that a lot of people who watch this show might think that him brainwashing a woman he just raped into becoming his obedient sex pet is some kind mercy, with him later having her project out publicly better ideals that she had before. The thing is that the character is rewarded, and apparently makes the world a better place by being the most disgusting he can be, as he gets off on revenge that he essentially created the pieces for. Narratively he could just brainwash everyone, including and especially those he does not want to rape (every time he sleeps with a brainwashed person it is rape), and just make the world a better place where people would do the right thing. But it is gruesome death or sex pet, and I don't think the show wants the audience to think that things could be better without the revenge and rape. I can see that a lot of the people that might stand by the show might say that he had no choice in being violated and raped, except he kind of did, he let it all happen so that he could get revenge. And more than that the writer made up all of these scenarios where the world is just a ball of misery and easy examples of bad things like rape and racism, so he would not need to really think if this series is doing anything help or make things worse with the type of people that might consume it. I said before it made its two examples of evil hero extra party members be depraved homosexuals, depraved being the only examples of lesbian and gay here, as it throws out man on man rape and a man hating lesbian so that it can make the audience think he deserves his rape harem. The show really should just be called "Rape of Healer". And it is all a ploy to make its audience think that this series is deep and complex, as it provides problematic sexual fantasies. Now, a rating. I kind of want to actually be upfront, as despite how much I have gone on about how dang horrible it is, I can't deny being kind of drawn in by some of its perverse and graphic nature, I am not going to say that everyone who watched this and thought it looks kind of hot is a bad person or something. I looked to watch the uncensored version after all. I am going to hate myself, but the most right kind of feels like Not really good (4/10), but not a total waste of time. Because it is not good, it is horrible and something I hope does not at all make further trends, but it kind of also looked nice, that you could maybe enjoy aesthetically if you could turn the part of your brain off that recognises how morally bad it is. And it is regardless fascinating that something this depraved was actually a TV anime series, which I mean depraved in not just a practically porn way. The next time something like this shows up, I can't be nearly as kind. |
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Bargain Hunter Posts: 23818 |
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I got around the rating conundrum simply by not providing one. The only one of my 947 "Seen All" entries that I've done so. So when I use the arrow that arranges my ratings from "Masterpiece" downwards, Redo of Healer is dead last.
The fact that I actually finished it has me looking around for a therapist referral. |
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Yttrbio
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Cam0
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When every character is unlikable and the plot is uninteresting, it's kinda difficult to get much enjoyment out of a show. Ultimately it's just boring to watch stuff happen to characters I don't care about. It was mildly amusing to hear Keyarga laugh maniacally, but otherwise the show was Bad.
I have to admit that I'm kinda interested in how a story like this ends. Does Keyarga kill all the bad guys and live happily ever after with his brainwashed waifus, or does he eventually turn against the whole world? The novels are still ongoing so by the time this story ends, I'll probably have lost that morsel of interest in this story. |
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DuskyPredator
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I hope that he has some element of things turned back on him. Actually, an interesting idea could be something if like he himself were brainwashed, and a lot of the shitty ideas he had of the world were just like what he puts onto others to make them obedient to him. Not going to trust any idea like that would be well done though.
Kind of reminds me of a D&D story I heard recently where everything players did from walking away from a wizard to killing him and walking away later turned out to be the effects of a modify memory spell, which the effect would have been ruined if they just turned around at the end. |
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TarsTarkas
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There are plenty of places on our Earth right now that are just balls of misery and terror. They are just as viable backdrops for the story, as peaceful idyllic scenes are for others. You could also say, that such an evil backdrop would be necessary to turn an innocent peasant boy into what he is now. This is a realistic backdrop as any other, for such places do exist in our current world.
No he didn't have any choice in the matter, as least as the first timeline went. All those things happened to him, by the actions of the people that harmed him. He just wanted to get far enough long into the second timeline to develop his drug resistance and for his attackers to splay enough rope out. It wouldn't be as sweet a revenge if his attackers didn't know why he was getting revenge. So, no. In the first timeline, he had no choice in the matter. He was clearly the victim. I will not debate the second timeline on that, but in the second timeline, his attackers made their evil choices and are responsible for their actions. - - - , At the heart of this series is a depraved revenge fantasy. A revenge story is supposed to give you a cathartic release, when the evil doers get theirs. But by jumping into the deep end of depravity, it kinda kills that release, when you are skirming by certain scenes. It was the cannibalism that got me. I had no problem with the Orc army in the Slime series, but human on human..... |
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