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REVIEW: Digimon Adventure tri. Episodes 14-17 Streaming




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Ajc228



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:18 am Reply with quote
Not surprised this episode didn't look great. Toei has got to be one of the cheapeast studio's around. Maybe it's not a budgetary thing. It's very possible they were on a tight deadline but I'm accustomed to sub-standard animation from this studio.
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Kotano



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:29 am Reply with quote
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While they at least tried to build up Sora's arc and its conclusion in Biyomon's Mega-Level, similar to previous entries, following that up with Patamon turning into a mega out of nowhere was utterly baffling. Especially since the exact same thing happened in the first movie, he just felt like it.
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CycloneJoker



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:07 am Reply with quote
Kotano wrote:
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While they at least tried to build up Sora's arc and its conclusion in Biyomon's Mega-Level, similar to previous entries, following that up with Patamon turning into a mega out of nowhere was utterly baffling. Especially since the exact same thing happened in the first movie, he just felt like it.


While I'm by no means defending that shoehorned crap, at the very least T.K and Patamon's development came to a head by the start of this movie, after its sacrifice in the last movie and revival here. Unless the next movie happens to be Kari and T.K focused, I doubt they'd have had much room to take them further in the next 2 movies to more fully justify it, especially since there is still plenty of story to unfold.

Even more unwarranted was HerculesKabuterimon. If they wanted to get a bunch of Megas out, then why not throw Rosemon and Vikemon in too? Though I suppose, given how this movie ended, maybe they wouldn't have had the time for two more evolution sequences, huh? Clearly, the screenwriters had somewhere to be that day.
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JulieYBM



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:30 pm Reply with quote
Itou Kouji is pretty much the only good animator involved with this series. He's handled all of the good battles and the hand-drawn portions of the evolution sequences. With the terrible production schedule this series has he can only do so many cuts by himself, especially considering how detailed his drawings are. By the time all of the new evolutions are unveiled he should hopefully have enough time to start focusing entirely on the battles.
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Lycosyncer



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:01 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, despite some nice surprising revelations and that this film does finally answer about who are the five original Digidestined back at the end of the first season who existed long before the big 8 where yes, it's finally confirmed that Daigo and Maki are a part of that group and we still have yet to see who the other three are and hopefully this will be picked up again in the future.

As for the complaints made, I agree that this is by far the weakest of the four movies released thus far. Weak animation and some contrived writing, it really feels like Toei is once again being so lazy.

The subplot of Biyomon being such a bitch to Sora unlike how the other amnesiac Digimon can still get along with the Digidestined feels like forcing unnecessary drama into this mix when it could have been solved much earlier.

Evil Gennai is definitely being creepy alright and his moments with Meiko and especially Sora is definitely going to be something that should go on in Digimon history.

Lastly, how many more times do I have to complain about how four movies in, we still don't know what the hell happened with the 02 Digidestined! There better be some payoff for this otherwise this would be considered the Achilles heel for this film series.
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rizuchan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:26 pm Reply with quote
I honestly liked the idea of one or some of the Digimon not initially trusting their partner, but having all but one, and especially that one being Biyomon. Tsunomon or maybe even Tanemon seems more likely. It's also a strange contrast to the beginning of Adventure, where Sora was standoffish and Biyomon was vying for her affection.

I also found it infuriating how nobody noticed why Sora was upset when it was so blatantly obvious. I understand the boys and Mimi somewhat, but Hikari seems like she would notice, especially when her and Nyaromon were sitting right next to Sora while Yokomon was refusing to eat her food. And Matt has shown enough sensitivity in the past, especially to Sora, that I thought he had at least figured it out, but no, the only one who figures it out is Meiko. Guess Sora x Meiko is OTP now.
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C-MC



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:37 pm Reply with quote
we're 4 movies in and still nothing on the season 2 cast...I'm disappointed at you toei I wanna see them asap...


Also spoiler[the poster for the 5th movie Symbiosis features Hikari, Meiko, Meikuumon's ultimate or mega & Ophanimon Falldown Mode] which to me is very very disappointing and very mad cause I want spoiler[Holydramon] not that slut digimon lol smh
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ParaChomp



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:46 pm Reply with quote
Though I enjoyed myself, it felt boring overall. The multiple Mega forms at the end made me squeal with joy but only Hououmon was warranted. Not surprised that the middle is the weakest, it's what you usually do when writing but I didn't expect it to be as bland as it was.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:49 pm Reply with quote
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While most of Tri's forays into more mature content have been welcome and tasteful, seeing evil-Gennai strangle, wall-shove, and lick the faces of Digimon's female cast while making mildly sexual comments immediately puts a nasty taste in your mouth. In a movie with such little animation, these creepy flourishes just add insult to injury.


Tell me about it. I know that spoiler[he's seemingly possessed by the darkness mentioned in Episode 16], but it's out of character for him, even when you consider the fact, not to mention incredibly wrong to see in Digimon, period.
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Monster Hunter



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:40 pm Reply with quote
C-MC wrote:
we're 4 movies in and still nothing on the season 2 cast...I'm disappointed at you toei I wanna see them asap...


Also spoiler[the poster for the 5th movie Symbiosis features Hikari, Meiko, Meikuumon's ultimate or mega & Ophanimon Falldown Mode] which to me is very very disappointing and very mad cause I want spoiler[Holydramon] not that slut digimon lol smh


I am sorry why is spoiler[Ophanimon] a slut but not spoiler[Angewoman] the former digimon is dressed much more conservatively versus the latter. Also sorry I really dislike the spoiler[Falcor wanna be Holydramon] it doesn't fit thematically with the character especially that character's connection with another digimon and their partner.
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Hagaren Viper



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:10 pm Reply with quote
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While most of Tri's forays into more mature content have been welcome and tasteful, seeing evil-Gennai strangle, wall-shove, and lick the faces of Digimon's female cast while making mildly sexual comments immediately puts a nasty taste in your mouth. In a movie with such little animation, these creepy flourishes just add insult to injury.


The lick scene was definitely bizarre in the first place, but even weirder is how it got a reaction from nobody in-universe. Considering this is Gennai, Sora only looked vaguely bothered that he'd do such a thing for a moment before the moment is just forgotten. Just a bit of shock value that literally did nothing for the story.

But yeah, overall this movie was incredibly okay. I did appreciate Sora's story a bit more after seeing some writeups on it (Though the choices they made to kickstart her arc were dumb), but overall it felt like not much happened which is worrisome with only two movies left.
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CCTakato



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:39 am Reply with quote
rizuchan wrote:
I honestly liked the idea of one or some of the Digimon not initially trusting their partner, but having all but one, and especially that one being Biyomon. Tsunomon or maybe even Tanemon seems more likely. It's also a strange contrast to the beginning of Adventure, where Sora was standoffish and Biyomon was vying for her affection.

I personally liked what they did with Biyomon myself. It made sense to me that the reboot would be such a traumatic experience for some of the Digimon that it would cause such a drastic change to at least one of them's personalities. It also seemed obvious that they were writing it as a parallel to how Biyomon was always so pushy with Sora so early on the series and Sora would try to push her away, and this movie is doing the same thing but in a reverse. I personally found it heartbreaking to watch as I always felt like Sora and Biyomon had the closest bond between any of the kids and their Digimon expect maybe TK and Patamon.

What makes the whole thing with Gennai all the more disappointing is that it always seemed like Digimon had higher than average writing than that. Like you would expect something like that to happen in just about any other anime like Sword Art Online or something, but you don't expect it in Digimon. I know Digmon has been more fanservicey and more moe with it's treatment of female characters in recent years, but it still always felt like the writers would never go that far with that kind of disturbing content. Like even though Tri was aimed at more mature nostalgic audience, Digimon as a whole is still supposed to be a family show.

I'm also disappointed they still haven't addressed the topic of the 02 kids. They have only two more movies left and it's going to be very hard to suddenly cram in so many characters into two more movies especially with all the new original storylines and plot holes they've introduced. And when are they going to address anything with the whole Demiurge thing from the movie 1 prologue? I'm still willing to give the rest of the series a chance and I feel like I still enjoyed this movie more than most fans did in spite of the real serious issues with it. I'm just worried the resolution is going to end up feeling rushed. But I'm just glad it seems like most Digimon fans have condemned the awful treatment of Sora and Meiko in this movie. That's the only thing that makes me feel better about this.
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Stuart Smith



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:14 am Reply with quote
belvadeer wrote:


Tell me about it. I know that spoiler[he's seemingly possessed by the darkness mentioned in Episode 16], but it's out of character for him, even when you consider the fact, not to mention incredibly wrong to see in Digimon, period.


I'm not sure there is an 'out of character' for someone who's possessed. Regardless, its not like that was anything new for Digimon.

-Stuart Smith
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:30 pm Reply with quote
Stuart Smith wrote:
I'm not sure there is an 'out of character' for someone who's possessed. Regardless, its not like that was anything new for Digimon.


People who are possessed still technically can act like themselves. It's supposed to present the impression that nothing's wrong with them, hence hiding the fact they're possessed. The possessor clearly doesn't know a thing about Gennai, because he would never be a gross pervert.
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