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SheRrIs





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Gundam manga usually must stand up to very particular scrutiny, both in terms of mecha designs and in terms of story.


Ohahaha! I had a good laugh. Anybody remember the Gundam 00 official manga for the film drawn by Kaishaku? Yeah. Anime dazed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:54 pm Reply with quote
Sherris wrote:
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Gundam manga usually must stand up to very particular scrutiny, both in terms of mecha designs and in terms of story.


Ohahaha! I had a good laugh. Anybody remember the Gundam 00 official manga for the film drawn by Kaishaku? Yeah. Anime dazed


"Usually".
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Jinbei



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:57 pm Reply with quote
While not being straight from anime to manga, some series are actually better known/xecuted than the original version. Or a totally different thing altogether. Haganai started as a light novel(correct me if I'm wrong) and the anime was something of a hit, but the manga was an absolute blast. The art is great, the humor works better in the series and the translation by Seven Seas is nothing short of stellar


And then there's Shinsekai Yori, where the anime was a hit, but the manga version seemed to lean heavily on yuri-esque bathing scenes and fan-service, rather than taking the story forward... Sure, they did that as well, but from reading the first volume, the tone of the manga never quite reached the suspension and feeling of threat the anime did...
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Triltaison



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:42 pm Reply with quote
I remember the multiple Esacaflowne manga! But I was also really confused by that as a teen, and ended up not getting any of its manga as a result since I wasn't sure which was the "real" story and which was the alternate. I always liked to watch/read whatever came first before doing the other adaptation. It was difficult to look up that information at the time, so I just got the Bandai DVDs instead because of the soundtrack. I'm okay with that choice.

Now I'm reminded to finish out that Eva manga... I don't think I got any of the volumes after they went to the smaller size because OCD, and I'm curious to see how that wrapped up finally.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:56 pm Reply with quote
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Mostly the manga ends up being somewhat disposable pablum at best.

They are, indeed. Last summer, I bought Miho Asada's version of Stitch! (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61htssce0CL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg) and eventually realized how ephemeral and disposable the chapters were. I ended up throwing my copy away.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:00 pm Reply with quote
It seems rare that anime-to-manga are held up as high as their original anime: Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne, FLCL, Princess Tutu, Samurai Champloo, etc.

I did enjoy the Space Dandy manga.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:08 pm Reply with quote
The Kiddy Girl-And manga actually came out before the anime started aired (not just the serialization but the first volume also) and, ironically, does diverge from the anime in a "winging it" kind of way despite both having the same scriptwriter (while Higa Yukari drew the art, Kimura is credited with the story specifically, not just as "original work").
The original Kiddy Grade was not dissimilar mind, in that while being an anime original work it was preceded by a "pre-story" light novel.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:41 pm Reply with quote
CatSword wrote:
It seems rare that anime-to-manga are held up as high as their original anime: Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne, FLCL, Princess Tutu, Samurai Champloo, etc.

I did enjoy the Space Dandy manga.


The FLCL manga was weird...but at the very least they kind of better established the harem with Naota that anime weirdly kinda of danced around.

The Samurai Champloo manga was funny.
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jdnation



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:10 pm Reply with quote
Sadamoto's Neon Genesis Evangelion is still the gold standard.

But Gundam The Origin is also awesome. I believe it too was based on the original Gundam and added new content, and now has an anime adaptation of a manga adaptation of an anime? Or am I wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:20 pm Reply with quote
I was hoping to know how the manga adaption is given to a mangaka in the first place since aren't they all technically freelancers?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:34 pm Reply with quote
jdnation wrote:
Sadamoto's Neon Genesis Evangelion is still the gold standard.

But Gundam The Origin is also awesome. I believe it too was based on the original Gundam and added new content, and now has an anime adaptation of a manga adaptation of an anime? Or am I wrong?


You are right, sir. Aside from the Evangelion manga (The ending was good BTW. I think of it as the definitive ending for the series now.), The Origin was also a really good adaptation. It's no wonder they decided to reanimate it with that as basis.

There was an Ergo Proxy manga that acted kinda as a spin off for the TV series. I read that, and it was even weirder than I thought it'd be.

The Eureka Seven manga was also a bit of a weird case. The story went in different directions compared to the TV series. The difference was a bit traumatizing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Ushio wrote:
I was hoping to know how the manga adaption is given to a mangaka in the first place since aren't they all technically freelancers?


Manga publishers have huge, proactive, talent-acquisition programs. It's not just the competitions; they have talent scouts at doujin events and what-have-you.

And the talent is actively managed even when it's not running a serialisation; ever seen that thing in anime and manga where there's a junior manga artist who's trying to arrange a professional debut and they're meeting with an editor every... week? or so, throwing story ideas and so forth backwards and forwards? I presume that this accurately reflects manga-ka working life; the editor probably has another dozen or more prospects, and if their colleague on an anime production committee says they need a manga artist to run the serialisation for anime Sigma...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:04 pm Reply with quote
jdnation wrote:
Sadamoto's Neon Genesis Evangelion is still the gold standard.

But Gundam The Origin is also awesome. I believe it too was based on the original Gundam and added new content, and now has an anime adaptation of a manga adaptation of an anime? Or am I wrong?


That's basically the story of Origin, though there are a few twists. The author Yoshikazu Yasuhiko had a pretty big role in the original series, as character designer and some other credits. He's also done a lot of illustration (most famously, the original Dirty Pair novels) and manga work over the years, though I think Origin is the only one to come out Stateside.

It's tighter than the original series in some ways, especially in giving White Base a clear course around the Earth instead of hopping all over having random adventures. At least, that's how I remember it; it's been a few years since I watched the series. At the same time, it expands on the story, especially the long flashback arc that the OVA is based on and showing more of what's happening on the Zeon side. There's also a focus on showing what shaped Char into the man he would be in UC 0093.
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ericarreza



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:26 pm Reply with quote
What about on this case, an anime series that is currently shown on TV & then simultaneously release a manga version on the same day and/or month that the original anime debut on TV as what this latest anime series for 2018 called Toji No Miko (and it looks like it'll become a hit series):

animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-08-11/toji-no-miko-original-anime-project-gets-smartphone-game-manga/.120010

And what about an original anime film and later it adopted into a manga series like in the case of Your Name? Is this the same case as the original anime TV series & went into an adoption of a manga version?[/i]
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:53 am Reply with quote
This reminds me of something I was wondering about last month's news that Kentaro Yabuki's next project is a manga adaptation of an original anime.

Is it common that established mangaka do adaptations of other peoples work like this? I would've thought that it was more something for up and coming artists, who then later move on to original projects.
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