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Aca Vuksa
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The decling of J-Cinema is driven by the low budget film production investment, hahaha.
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ultimatehaki
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I'm pretty sure it dropped just because "your name" blew up the previous year and got buckets of money.
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Scion Drake
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The idea that a single film has that much influence is honestly rather amusing.
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MarshalBanana
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Well growth is not infinite
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I_Drive_DSM
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I still find it amazing that we talk about yearly anime works produced total in the ~350 range when I still remember that getting anywhere near 50 titles a year was considered astronomical. And the US at best maybe got half of those. Nowadays if a season sees less than 50 releases we're in a crisis. I don't know how people keep up with everything, even with everything mostly streaming nowadays.
I'm wondering if the decline in character goods sales recently is more so tied into focusing more on quality? Used to you could find character "goods" on nearly everything you could put your hands on. Another is a good deal are now tie-ins to either manga or BD releases ;thinking exclusive figs or similar that get bundled, that are likely difficult to intricately track. |
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Morry
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Obvious market correction after a year with Your Name is obvious.
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Feli1
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I hope next year could be better just hype actual good movies from the land of the rising sun people.......ohh who am I kidding lol
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digidragon
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The article does make note of this. |
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ultimatehaki
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 guess it's obvious I only read the title
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Kadmos1
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Far too many titles (demand) being made and not enough staff (supply). If the number of premiering shows each season fell (like 25 titles, excluding OVAs and movies), then there might be less aggravation. Sure, the revenue is decreased but you also have to look at the manpower needed to make the shows. |
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residentgrigo
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Your name. -aka. the anime equivalent of Titanic- really messed with the figures last year, as the article points out, and is a once in a decade phenomenon on top. Eh.
The other stats are about what one would think, yet i am surprised that the overall market rose again. Those numbers don´t make sense. The market can´t just nearly double in about a decade. A decline has to set in sooner than later. I hope it will be gradual for the sake of us all. It would also be nice if some of that money ended up in the hands of the staff and not just in the offshore accounts of the producers. One sure can dream... |
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Яeverse
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Nice to have a new total disc sale benchmark, which is an average disc sale of 4K for any 5 volume anime release, to 2.5K for any 8 volume anime release. Fortunately shows I care about like Free!, UtaPri, HQ make that, but others like Beatless did not. Crying. |
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bigivel
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The money already ends up in their hands. The problem is that for 1 anime you need a team of hundreds of people to make them. And so for each 100 dollars the producer earns, 1 dollar goes to one hundred crew. Obviously the calculation of distribution isn't that simple. But remember that one producer can in 1 year release 10 series, and only 1 support its costs, and hopefully the cost of the other 9 series. This means that in a bad year or even a midly bad year, the Producer in fact loses money. The crew though is always earning money. Also note that Producers normally aren't 1 person, but an organization. An organization made of many people, normally also hundred and maybe thousands. So the money is also distributed between the employees, normally the person dealing with the series has also a fixed salary(and maybe a bonus depending on how the series does), so that person will be getting money, while the company is losing, this means debt and to much debt means closing the doors. Is important to understand that this report only talks of revenue and never of costs, neither of profits. Obviously that one would believe that given the fact that the industry is always increasing every year that it is being profitable, but there is no information about how much, nor the distribution of this profit to the different elements of the industry. Again, if what is in the article is right, a series with 8 volumes(2 seasons) needs to get 2.5k each volume to break even. As you can see in the list of DVD+BD sales, many don't do that. The same can be said for Merchandizing, people forget, or don't know, but merchandising is one of the products where the difference between the cost of making the product and the sales of that product are shorter, meaning bring less profit. This is not only roses, in fact is a lot more nightmares for the Producer, and the reason you don't have more anime studios doing that, but instead big corporation that can take that huge losses, and even they get together in commitees to lose less per series. What you need to change to get more money to the animators and the rest of the people involved is basically increase productivity, meaning, quantity of work made and/or the value of each work(specifically the sales). This is not just hipothetical, it happened with Disney golden age, the Disney 2nd golden age, probably happening right now in what people call the 3rd golden Age. It happened with Toei Animation(they are the overall best paying anime studio right now), with Studio Ghibli, Kyoto Animation and more. And of course, The workers are also responsible to have knowledge of their productivity and value and requesting/demanding what is due. Note, that is what is due not more, because more will just bring money now, but send the company to the decline, that means firing people or even bankruptcy. |
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anime_layer
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The overseas income might have already overtaken the domestic income in 2018. Anime is really going global.
While the number of series has increased (up 22% since the last peak in 2006), the total minutes of tv animation produced has decreased (down 15% since 2006)*. This means there isn't much more anime produced but that it's split between more and shorter series. A few decades ago, 26 episode series were the norm and more not rare. Nowadays we rarely get more than 13 episodes per season. (* This does not include streaming-only shows, like the ones from Netflix, and the report notes there weren't much of them.) |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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It still amazes me anime sells as well as it does in Japan given their astronomically high prices. I could never imagine paying Japanese prices for a movie or TV show.
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