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REVIEW: That's My Atypical Girl GN 1


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09jcg



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:20 pm Reply with quote
Just want to address that the manga DOES address what Saitos disorder is., just not yet. Figuring it out is a story beat
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:48 pm Reply with quote
I'm surprised this got a stateside release. The story can get dark and frustrating at times, but it makes for an engaging read.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:25 pm Reply with quote
09jcg wrote:
Just want to address that the manga DOES address what Saitos disorder is., just not yet. Figuring it out is a story beat


Thank you - that makes me feel a bit better. I'm just so sick of the "zoo animals" approach to disabilities and representation ("Look, kids, Timmy's different and that makes him special") that I always approach these series with trepidation.
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ItAintEazy



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:42 pm Reply with quote
The book's original English title is "Days With A Girl."

That's it.

No labeling her with a condition or putting her in a box, and I appreciate that.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:24 pm Reply with quote
ItAintEazy wrote:
The book's original English title is "Days With A Girl."

That's it.

No labeling her with a condition or putting her in a box, and I appreciate that.


The Japanese title is mentioned in the review and is "Asper Kanojo," a direct reference to Asperger's Syndrome. The Japanese cover was "アスペル・カノジョ" With "Days With A Girl" as an English subtitle. It doesn't erase the condition that's also mentioned on the cover. It's also hard to know if "A" in the English subtitle is meant to be read as a particle (a girl) or as translation of the shortening of Asperger's, like "Asper" is.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:34 pm Reply with quote
I think for a work that features a heavy and sensitive topic, it actually delivers its message pretty carefully. IMO it succeeds to be as simple and easy-to-understand as possible at first, before getting deeper and more layered later on.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:36 pm Reply with quote
Oh wow I am surprised this one got released in english. I really hope you can review more then volume 1 of this series.

So I have not read this series or volume, but when ever I have seen it brought up by the autism community or others, I have never actually heard people saying anything but positive things about it actually. It could be that they are working with info from later volumes but, unlike Atypical (which also has a "flawed" autistic MC) which the autism community largely hates, this series actually gets a lot of positive word of mouth so, something has has to be different.

Talking about just how violently she is portrayed I absolutely do understand where the reviewer is coming from in their concerns about just how violent she portrayed. I would like to point and appreciate that the series is actively trying to not infantilize Saito...Because personally I am so DONE WITH THAT TRASH. and does actively portray her as having interest, desires, intelligence, and even faults, even if they aren't the best ones.

I have spent a lot of time working with other autistics at workshops, where there were actually other autistics who scared me with their sudden seemingly violent outburst. (Violence towards another person was basically the only behavior that would get someone with autism fired). honestly from this review this doesn't seem like that far of a STARTING POINT, that some autistics I have meet started at.

The thing that this manga does seem to make clear is that she has been abused, and hasn't gotten any of the help and support that she obviously needs. I am giving the series the benefit of the doubt. I understand the reviewers concerns about how she is basically forcing herself on him. but at the same time there are autistics I know who I VERY MUCH wish acted like saito. Running away from a very toxic home life to a random person who actually treats them like a human is way better for her, and while totally unfair to him, it is very much a cry for help that many in the autistic community make. I do doubt however that she doesn't realize what she is doing to him, she just isn't sure how to express it is far more likely to me. Fruits Basket and a silent voice are SUPER POPULAR in the community, because of not only it's base qualities. But because of how much it speaks to the problems of children with special needs and the situations that they go through. Even though I think the silent voice movie does a poor job showing why she does a key action she does later on, I have never meet another special needs person who didn't instantly know why....that is why I am assuming saito knows what she is doing.

IRL RELATED IMPORTANT ISSUSE Please support the #stop the shock on social media. The judge rotenberg center is now allowed to again use what the UN AND FDA CALL TORTURE DEVICES for people dealing with similar problems to saito, in order "to train them" and has resulted serious harm from (for example) electric shocks being used "77 times in just one night, after a prank caller instructed staff to do so." https://autisticadvocacy.org/actioncenter/issues/school/climate/jrc/
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/decades-long-fight-over-electric-shock-treatment-led-fda-ban-n1265546


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TsukasaElkKite



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As someone who’s autistic, I’m very hesitant to read this book.
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ptj_tsubasa



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:01 am Reply with quote
ItAintEazy wrote:
The book's original English title is "Days With A Girl."

That's it.

The small English ”subtitles” that manga and light novels often have are not really ”English titles”. They’re visual decorations made up by the publisher’s graphic designer when designing the logo - and it’s safe to say that most of them speak little to no English. That’s how you get silly mistakes, like ”cavalry” instead of ”chivalry” in Rakudai Kishi.

Some of those subtitles catch on (like Attack on Titan) and some don’t (like The Basketball Which Kuroko Plays). But it’s misguided to think that they usually have anything to do with the creator’s vision, because they’re more or less like kanji tattoos.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:31 am Reply with quote
A bit like having Sherlock Holmes as a fan, which would be flattering.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:18 am Reply with quote
TsukasaElkKite wrote:
As someone who’s autistic, I’m very hesitant to read this book.


As another autistic person I agree. The things described in the review made me feel uncomfortable. But I see a lot of people here saying it gets better after the first volume? I guess I’d want to see a review of the whole series before taking a chance on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:52 am Reply with quote
I'm neither autistic nor do I know much about it but as the series progresses one of the things it does that I liked was you learn about autism through the eyes of the protagonist. Both the difficulties a person with autism faces as well as how someone who isn't autistic should interact with someone who is autistic.

Whether those lessons learned are accurate are something I can't really attest to so I would be interested in how someone with autism views the manga.

To sum it up, the author is certainly trying to handle the content with care and does craft an interesting story as well.

EDIT: Before anyone does run out and read it though, the story does go to some dark places so a content warning would be appropriate.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:07 pm Reply with quote
09jcg wrote:

To sum it up, the author is certainly trying to handle the content with care and does craft an interesting story as well.


And more than anything he makes you care about the 2 protagonists, he makes you feel their struggle in everyday's life, and in the end you want to read more. I don't know if it's an accurate representation of people with autism, depression, and other similar problems, and probably some things are a bit exhaggerated, but overall I think it's an interesting manga.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:09 pm Reply with quote
09jcg wrote:

EDIT: Before anyone does run out and read it though, the story does go to some dark places so a content warning would be appropriate.


Agreed. I'd say that the warnings for this volume would be for self-harm, physical and emotional abuse (primarily of a child by their family at this point), and animal cruelty.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 5:03 pm Reply with quote
Is it wrong that I, someone who has high-fuctioning Asperger's, don't really care about how this fictional work portrays autism and whether or not it's readily relatable to those on the spectrum?

Because I'm confident that it's not.
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