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Shayru
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Could you please not be dumb and publish an article about a vtuber real person unless they explicity said themselves to be this character (the only one that did that was kizuna ai, and even then it was made so she isn't complety the character as she 'just give her voice to the character') here there hasn't been any confirmation about her identity whatsoever and this could be considered doxxing
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Tony SSS
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Interesting to know she wants to adopt a new identity for herself alone in the future, that's similar to other V-Tubers who either started with one before becoming another notoriously known one from a certain notorious company, or those who got graduated/fired from a company and decided to start fresh with a new persona regardless of all their problems they carried with presumably. But in the case of this ex-V-Tuber being one of the most prominently known personalities in the whole community, I do believe she still needs a long time in order to be mentally stable as possible with herself enough to be confident to ignore all the antis, haters and whatnot who ever dare to obstacle in her way of life as a streamer. Despite myself not being into V-Tubers that much at all (although I did start to follow Kson and another V-Tuber who collaborated with her from PRISM Project which I do like quite a lot honestly), I did quite a bit of research about this whole recent drama which happened between Mafumafu and MKNK-chan days ago, and from what I can gather, seems something (or someone) wanted to forcefully leave that company all by herself, which then chatted with Mafumafu saying to not leak all of those infos of herself to others, but despite that, both weren't smart enough with each other, so Mafumafu eventually leaked all of that info to others, which forced Cover Corp, to fire that previous V-Tuber persona of hers due to having broken up the NDA contract with that company. She also seemed to have messaged some fans of hers saying that she doesn't want to leave them at all, prompting some antis and haters of hers to uncecessarly talk **** on that whole situation, further worsening that drama even further and damaging her mentality in the process. Especially for the fact that not many people know that she has serious mental issues and cases of depressions she has to fight several times like even before recently. What also sucks IMO is that many fans who saw it or were late missing it (I was there when it started 5 mins ago) having those who commented in clipped videos of it (despite not many of us having acknowledged that in the description she wrote about not seeing ANY clipped videos about that streaming posted on YT at all), still cannot get used to the fact that MKNK-chan is NOT that V-Tuber persona anymore from now on after getting fired from that company from that confusing drama (also not many know that MKNK-chan actually started to stream for the first time on NicoNico under that username of hers just like with Kson before both becoming V-Tubers many years ago). Infact I kept seeing mentions about fan names and memes from many of her fans, which honestly made me feel disgusted and triggered just like she did too I presume, they all need to stop eventually calling her "Necromancer", "Flatchest/Pettanko" and so on, not just for legal reasons from Cover Corp. but also for the fact that she might get upset and get even more depressed, worsening her mental health even further, perhaps causing her to divulge into suicidial thoughts which I extremely hope it won't be the case for her in the future, don't want to see her end her life from others making her reminescing that dark recent past... I will try to support her in anyway I can once she will properly stream on YouTube eventually, wether as her true self who just came back to her own roots or a completely new identity, one thing has never changed about her for sure: her lovely angelic voice and singing she naturally has and her unexpected death metal black grindcore screams they come with her, seriously those screams of hers can give Akane Fujita a run for her money... 
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Tony SSS
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Well for starters, Mikeneko-chan IS the real identity behind that (now fired) extremely famous V-Tuber in the first place, it's not really a huge deal anymore honestly (especially for all of those who knew about it way before all this happened, trust me). The way the author of that article wrote it makes it look like he still isn't sure about the true identity of that V-Tuber, even tho MANY of her fans have now come into aquitance with it a few days ago (despite all of those who still think she is that V-Tuber and nothing of her has changed at all...Yuck) |
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Shayru
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The problem is that there are rules from COVER to not speak about a vtuber real life so while yes this person may or may not be rushia, there shouldn't be an article associating the two like there wasn't when kasuga nozomi was thought to be kizuna ai, or about who coco from the same company is.
Also, there was already enough problems with the people that as you said brought her old persona up on and off stream without the need to bring more |
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Asterisk-CGY
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But how much of it is enforceable and how much is it just keeping kayfabe? Obviously Cover can sue for anything, and they can blacklist for anything, but will it amount to anything? This would be the boldest article about vtubing I've read so far.
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Megiddo
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Doing articles about random stream superchats now?
Nijisanji's Leos just had a birthday stream and earned over $60,000 today |
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NeverConvex
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Clearly, I'm in the wrong business..
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Tony SSS
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Does this count for independent/lesser known V-Tuber companies too? |
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NeverConvex
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Oh, no. I would specifically want to be in the business of very highly paid VTubers.
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ChiilongCha
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COVER rules don't matter because COVER has decided to erase Rushia from existence by removing all of her archive and refunding her merchandise. All the information in this article has been verified as fact with supporting evidence so there is nothing wrong with reporting it. Whether the association between Rushia's persona and her current alter ego is necessary is subjective. |
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Greed1914
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I imagine it's like any other entertainment industry, some do very, very well for themselves with it, while most do other things to help pay the bills. |
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Hoppy800
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1. Anyone who saw Mikeneko's last YT stream or a specific clip from it where she screams twice that she's not fine in Rushia's voice knows that Mikeneko is Rushia beyond a shadow of doubt.
2. Cover are fools to try and enforce anything after they screwed this poor lady royally and not go after Sabaki and Korekore especially to a mainstream outlet and for a story that's not fake news (I saw the stream with my own eyes). It would make them look like cowards. 3. Mikeneko deserves all that money after what she went through, once she starts streaming games and such, I'll make sure to get a membership. |
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NeverConvex
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Oh, yeah, completely agree -- I'm reasonably sure that's its structure, too. That kind of heavily-concentrated-in-the-top-few-%-of-folks income distribution naturally evolves (unless specifically controlled) in most industries based on massive one-to-many broadcast entertainment (or any kind of one-can-serve-arbitrarily-many industry, period, really; entertainment just seems like the most obvious example), I believe. Reminds me of The Economics of Superstars. Not to get too deep into it. I was just being a little cheeky, just so we're all on the same page 
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immortal1982
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I wouldnt call them fools, or screwing over a poor lady. Rushia did this all to herself. She didn't listen to them on multiple occasions, violated contract on multiple occasions, and she's pretty damn lucky she hasn't been sued to oblivion as far as we know. She even tried to throw other members of Hololive under the bus on the way out of the company. Im sorry for how you feel, but there is literally no defense for her or her actions from any reasonable standpoint, regardless of whatever personal/physical/mental/emotional issues she has. |
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zuruda
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[quote="Tony SSS"]
There’s some misinformation here. Mafumafu wasn’t the one who leaked the information that Rushia said to not leak. Mafumafu made his own statement, then in a twitcast he showed screenshots of his and Rushia’s discord messages WITH Rushia’s consent. Even with her consent he still referred to her as “Person A”. The one who leaked the information is actually a famous Japanese drama youtuber called “Korekore”. You can find translations of Mafumafu’s twitcast/statements, and a translation of Korekore’s video. |
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