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This Week in Anime - The Trashy Treasures of BASTARD!!




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zztop



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:10 am Reply with quote
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the virgin isekai protag wants to be hardcore and have his harem of slave-girls but wouldn't know what to do with a woman if one fell into his lap...


I think a lot of this has to do with isekai's webnovel origins, esp. from sites like Syosetu.
R-rated isekai with protags who know what to do with women do exist, but I think you can only post them on the R-rated corners of Syosetu like Nocturne (for men) and Moonlight (for women) , which would presumably limit the number of capturable readership numbers. So most readers might write in something as described above that can catch the eyes of a horny audience whilst keeping itself open to greater potential readers within the general section of Syosetu, not held back by age restrictions and whatnot.
A similar thing would also apply to Korean webtoons, whose source novels might be R-rated but whose comic adaptations are made to be PG instead to presumably capture a wider readership.

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I think it also definitely helps that Dark Schneider was actually designed to be hot. Isekai is a genre of potato-faced everymen.


I see a good portion of isekai today is all about the everyman; the reader living vicariously through their exploits so he has to be as fairly ordinary and plain to begin with so said target audience can better self-insert. Very different from the larger-than-life main characters like Dark Schneider.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:48 am Reply with quote
While I am very happy to see people loving Bastard!! through this new anime (I don't have Netflix, so I haven't seen it, though I absolutely love the manga & the original OVA), and it stops exactly where I figured it would, I do find it odd but amusing how people keep talking about wanting the anime to just go all out & feature D.S.'s schlong, even though Hagiwara never actually goes that far at all in the manga, even when the series moved over to Ultra Jump in late 2000 (which corresponds to the middle of Volume 22 [of 27, currently], i.e. well later than what most people think). Sure, there are the mosaic moments & the like, but that's part of the gag; going full penis would be ruining the joke.

Anyway, excellent little back & forth for this series, & all the best to Jean-Karlo with This Week in Games.

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Also... they have a battle-god named "Yng Wie". As in, "Yngwie Malsteem." God, I love this manga.


Just wait until the second story arc, which the anime hopefully will eventually get to, as there's a character introduced there literally named Yngwie von Malmsteem. His name was so blatant that Viz actually changed it for the (incomplete, sadly) English release of the manga, where he's called Yngwie von Mattström (hey, at least Viz went with the umlaut, which is totally metal).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:51 am Reply with quote
This review made me laugh because it’s so true, and because I knew a lot of people were making the InuYasha comparison. This show is shameless, but it’s so fun about being shameless, rather than trying to be subtle or sneaky about it.

Also, it’s Netflix. I could see them just forgoing any subtlety next season in concurrence with the manga’s own chronology of moving to Ultra Jump and forgoing it there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:13 am Reply with quote
I'm sad Jean-Karlo won't be covering anime anymore, because I relate a lot to him, since I'm Latin-American as well and we both appear to have been raised on the same steady diet of Locomotion and tokusatsu.

Overall, I'm pleased with this adaptation. The animation quality is better and more consistent than what we usually get from Liden Films, and scriptwriters Yosuke Kuroda and Hideyuki Kurata (yep, the "Jigoku Gumi" from Excel Saga is back at it) keep things rather faithful to the original material. I'm just disappointed that other Netflix-exclusive series like Devilman Crybaby and Baki get to show female nipples but Bastard!! doesn't, and I'd be very glad if the BD release added them.

Lastly, as the comparison pics show, they actually had to tweak Di-Amon's makeup a bit by adding that vertical gray stripe in the middle of his face in order to keep it from looking exactly like King Diamond's. I hope that's enough to prevent a lawsuit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:56 am Reply with quote
One reference from Bastard! that seems to get missed is Dark Schneider himself.

Udo Dirkschneider

If you were around in the 1980s you may have heard him in

Accept: Balls to the Wall
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Lord Geo



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:03 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
Also, it’s Netflix. I could see them just forgoing any subtlety next season in concurrence with the manga’s own chronology of moving to Ultra Jump and forgoing it there.


The move to Ultra Jump didn't happen that early on. Hell, UJ didn't even exist until 1995!

Here's Bastard!!'s serialization history, once & for all, because everyone keeps getting it wrong:
1988-1989: Weekly Shonen Jump (All of The Dark Rebel Armies, & the first three chapters of Hell's Requiem, i.e. Volumes 1-8)
1990-1996: Shonen Jump Seasonal Specials (Rest of Hell's Requiem & all of Crime & Punishment, i.e. Volumes 9-18)
1997-Early 2000: Irregular Run Back in Weekly Shonen Jump (First Half of The Immoral Laws, i.e. Volumes 19-21 & First Half of Volume 22)
Late 2000-2012: Mostly Irregular Run in Ultra Jump (Second Half of The Immoral Laws & 1 volume of Number of the Beast, which continues where C&P left off at, i.e. Second Half of Volume 22 & Volumes 23-27)
2012-Present: Haitus, Outside of Three Non-Canon Hentai Doujin & the Ninja Master Gara Light Novel Spin-Off

If the Bastard!! anime continues past the 24 episodes already planned, then it wouldn't get to Ultra Jump for a LOOOOOOOOONG time. I'm talking "Not Until Halfway Into a Third or Even Fourth Season", and that's not even taking into consideration that possibility of if the anime winds up adapting the various drama CDs & light novels that were produced, which tend to focus on D.S.'s earlier escapades prior to the manga's events, & the Gara novel takes place during the small time skip between the first two story arcs. As much as people want to talk about Bastard!!'s move to Ultra Jump, it happened in the middle of a massive fight that makes up the majority of The Immoral Laws, so the truth of the matter is that THE UJ RUN IS ACTUALLY LESS SEXUALIZED THAN THE SJ RUN, except for Volume 27, and even that actually had the sexual parts added in for the tankouban release, as they weren't in the original UJ serialization.

In fact, seeing as Viz stopped releasing the manga after Volume 19, none of Bastard!!'s Ultra Jump run has ever seen official English release.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:19 pm Reply with quote
Zhou-BR wrote:
I'm sad Jean-Karlo won't be covering anime anymore, because I relate a lot to him, since I'm Latin-American as well and we both appear to have been raised on the same steady diet of Locomotion and tokusatsu.


I'm touched to hear it. Anime smile

I'm glad I reached other Latinos with my writing, and I'm glad I helped other people feel seen. And hey, it makes me happy to know other people remember Locomotion. That Boogiepop Phantom column was very special to me. Thank you for the support. I'll do my best in TWIG.
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RR529



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:58 pm Reply with quote
I've read a bit of the manga (and saw the 90's series I believe) a long time ago via fan scans, and honestly given the content (including the screenshots shared of this version) I find it highly odd that bare breasts is a line it won't cross.

Is it truly a Netflix exclusive, or does it have a TV broadcast airing in Japan? That at least would explain the lack of actual nudity as a "home" version wouldn't have been made yet (though if it is broadcast censorship, I'd almost expect some of the posted screens to be even more censored than they already are).

That said, I'm interested in checking it out at some point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:24 am Reply with quote
Just finished the cour.,,, dayumn and people complained that Mushoku Tensei had too much sexual content
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Minos_Kurumada



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:14 pm Reply with quote
I seem to remember that D.S. had little dragon pet thing following him, I didn't see it on the screenshots nor mentioned... Am I crazy?

Also, I would like to know the limitations of sausage drawings in manga/anime, Hajime no Ippo it's FULL of dick jokes and you can't go 3 chapters without seeing one and it's a Shounen but, in every other Shounen its a no-no.

Does Ippo have a free card because it's Ippo or Shounen have always been allowed to draw it but authors simply chose not to?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:38 pm Reply with quote
The dragon is there. It's in the intro and it's a fairly notable companion during the middle half of this cour.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:13 pm Reply with quote
As happy as I am to see an old-school anime get a new lease on life, watching this new production reminded me why I developed complex feelings about the manga and OVA.

On the one hand, readers could see the effort put into each panel, all drawn by hand before computers came around to make things more streamlined. There were notes left in the margins by staff members; jokes aimed at Hagiwara-san; his gag panels about Studio Loud in School trying to get their work done. The shading. The proportions. The sense of scale when it came to some monsters. All the music and D&D references. I love all of it. And the fanservice, admittedly.

On the other hand, hoh boy. It was very much a product of its time. The new anime has taken all that and shoved it in my face with the good and the bad.

I was pleasantly surprised to see how close it runs to the manga when there were only thirteen episodes to start with. And I'm now a fan of Kishō Taniyama as Dark Schneider. I still miss Kazuki Yao, but Taniyama-san goes absolutely all out in his performances and I'm here for it. The rest of the cast is rock-solid as well. And when Anthrasax spoke, I actually stopped dead and thought Oh. OH! So THAT'S why they gave it a voice actor. Shiiiit that's creepy. The part where Yoko mentioned not really knowing who the kid she spent ten years growing up with hit differently as well; in the manga, she was translated as asking "Lucien, who are you really?" which is pretty emotional, but the new dialogue truly drove home what Yoko was feeling.

I'm digging the soundtrack. The art is vivid and pleasantly colored, yet seems to reflect both the modern preferences of anime and how Hagiwara-san's art turned out in later volumes: Every woman has the same large eyes, similar facial structures, and wasp-waisted/large-breasted figure.

The writing.... that's really what hasn't aged well. Maybe we could've used a minor update in some of the characterizations. If Gara still has to strip Yoko with a slime, he could've been written as at least sending away his ninja. If Yoko still has to be concerned with her purity and how embarrassing it is to kiss Lucien, why not focus more on how they're foster siblings and the Westermark effect is making things uncomfortable? And it was really discomforting to see Princess Sheila tell Dark Schneider to stop groping her, and he kept continuing before Yoko threw Lars at him.

It doesn't matter that the princess changed her mind and expressed her feelings for DS; it might've been better if he'd been written as pausing in confusion, because why would any woman tell the incredible handsome protagonist to stop when he's so desirable? Yoko can tell him to stop all she wants 'cause that's Yoko, but why would anyone else? (And speaking of groping, DS saying "Some of them [the other women] liked it," sounds like a confession that he knew some women didn't and he did it anyway. Holy CRAP, y'all.)

I don't think the show could've undergone a total rewrite without losing some things that make it "Bastard!! -Heavy Metal, Dark Fantasy." But a few things, like what I pointed out, could've used a tune-up.

And yet I'm still gonna check out season two. [facepalm] I guess this is my favorite Japanese media guilty pleasure for a reason.
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Oby



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:58 am Reply with quote
FinalVentCard wrote:

I'm touched to hear it. Anime smile

You used Kamen Rider Black GIF for your "goodbye", so I know you're cool Mr. Green.

And yes, I too will miss reading your anime covers. But all the best & all the luck for you.
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