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INTEREST: Eiichiro Oda Asks ChatGPT to Write the Next One Piece Chapter


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Replica_Rabbit



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:53 pm Reply with quote
The last story sounds like something from Rustage's One Piece D&D. It be funny if Oda just did the next chapter using that story
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:08 pm Reply with quote
Second one sounds like a bleeping Mario Galaxy game.

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Chris Handsome



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:25 pm Reply with quote
Be a great way to bring back Eneru with the alien plot.
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Somer-_-



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:35 pm Reply with quote
Wack idea for a chapter but I’d watch a movie about the first one.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:46 pm Reply with quote
At least we now know who will take over writing duties if one Piece is not completed in Odas lifetime.
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moozooh



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:50 pm Reply with quote
Should've asked in English. ChatGPT is pretty bad with creative stuff in other languages because each of them had a much much smaller training corpus. Here are a couple example outputs when asked in English: 1, 2. You can try it yourself, the suggestions are pretty sensible and more or less in line with OP's world.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:59 pm Reply with quote
moozooh wrote:
Should've asked in English. ChatGPT is pretty bad with creative stuff in other languages because each of them had a much much smaller training corpus. Here are a couple example outputs when asked in English: 1, 2. You can try it yourself, the suggestions are pretty sensible and more or less in line with OP's world.


ChatGPT is going to spit out nonsensical garbage no matter what language you use.
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AsleepBySunset



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:43 pm Reply with quote
Yesterday, I was thinking to myself that I'll probably watch one piece sometime when it nears completion. Not anymore.
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LadonTree



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:45 pm Reply with quote
It be better if he didn't say anything beforehand and just publish the chapter written by AI, let people give their true thoughts blind.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:05 pm Reply with quote
A colleague recently tried out ChatGPT and asked it to write a code for a project he did

It produced a more efficient code than what he thought up, lol

(Workers don't even have to do their own work anymore, just polish it up!)
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Summinn



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:54 pm Reply with quote
Only a matter of time until big publishers just start having AI produce their own stories. Oda is sitting on top of his Manga empire while promoting a tool that will eventually replace most Manga writers that are nowhere near as successful as him.
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:55 pm Reply with quote
I remember this was an episode of Kamen Rider Zero One where a mangaka was making robots write and draw all his manga and it made the quality of his work a lot worse. Coincidentally Kamen Rider Zero One was also a Toei show.
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TheSleepyMonkey



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:40 pm Reply with quote
AsleepBySunset wrote:
Yesterday, I was thinking to myself that I'll probably watch one piece sometime when it nears completion. Not anymore.


Your ability to detect jokes needs to be improved.
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AsleepBySunset



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:52 pm Reply with quote
TheSleepyMonkey wrote:
AsleepBySunset wrote:
Yesterday, I was thinking to myself that I'll probably watch one piece sometime when it nears completion. Not anymore.


Your ability to detect jokes needs to be improved.


Okay?... It doesn't actually matter if it is a joke or not because my opinion still stands either way, I did in fact consider the possibility it's a joke before I wrote my original post.

I'm not that interested in reading Japanese chatGPT text displayed in video form to read what the synopsis was, but it was probably quite passable. The "laugh at how bad AI harry potter is" era seems to be pretty over. The "laugh at how bad AI is" shtick has been normalising AI use in the arts for over a decade.
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moozooh



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:28 am Reply with quote
Making jokes about AI blunders is making light of what's inevitably going to blindsight you. The reality you need to wake up to is that the AI becomes better at this a lot faster than a human does, and will soon become significantly better than an average human in their own field. GPT-2 could produce some interesting ideas on a given topic, but they were often too wild or disjointed for actual use. GPT-3/3.5 can produce dozens of well-formulated, convincing ideas and narratives that are in no way inferior to a brainstorm session with real people. It took about 2 years to get from one to another. This is much faster than humans improve at the same task. It's like going from an 8 year old intelligence to a 16 year old in the span of two years. GPT-4 is already poised to generate ideas on par with the most creative people around with a similar level of detail and coherence, at a pace far exceeding any of their ability to voice them out aloud. And it's already in development. The same is currently happening in medical diagnostics, legal document processing, translation, and many other similar tasks that previously required highly qualified people, most of which can very soon be replaced by somebody who's just qualified enough to see if the output makes sense and corrects it when needed.

I also find it weird that we're talking about "normalizing" when almost the entirety of arts is commodified for mass consumption or use as part of bigger products made in industrial quantities. Thinking the industry wouldn't want to adopt tools that would increase productivity and lower barrier of entry, and hence increase potential profits by up to hundreds of percent, is at best delusional. Of course they would—they're just waiting for the technology to mature enough for adoption, and they won't have to wait much longer. It's not a question of decades, it's a question of at most 2-3 years, give or take. If you feel like AI is encroaching on your professional territory, you've already lost and might as well take what time you have to learn how to write good prompts or learn another trade altogether, because when tens and hundreds of thousands of people in your profession have to do the same, it's going to be a lot harder to negotiate a good position. Don't expect that a magical anti-AI fairy will somehow make it so AI doesn't become better than you at what you do or otherwise makes you a more attractive investment from a business standpoint. Automation has and always will replace manual labor in the long term, and every single time it will lead to one person doing the work of dozens or hundreds using the new tools. Individual finesse, unless it's something truly world-class and worth preserving, is secondary to sheer productivity.

I don't think anyone is truly ready for what's to come, and neither am I (and one of my two main sources of income is very much affected), but being in denial over something as big as that is just making it worse for yourself.
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