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INTEREST: The Shibuya Ward Mayor All But Banned Halloween This Year, But Did It Work?




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DamianSalazar



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:06 am Reply with quote
This was probably to ward off all foreign streamers from being absolute nuisances to the Japanese public.
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Derpinat0rz



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:30 am Reply with quote
Its the shibuya incident
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R. Kasahara



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:16 am Reply with quote
I had hoped the article had gone into what exactly happened in Itaewon, but I had to look that up on my own. Long story short: over a hundred people died during a similar Halloween celebration.
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Cho_Desu



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:07 pm Reply with quote
R. Kasahara wrote:
I had hoped the article had gone into what exactly happened in Itaewon, but I had to look that up on my own. Long story short: over a hundred people died during a similar Halloween celebration.


Was trying to work out what the article was talking about too. (A bit odd to just vaguely say "incident" or "accident.")

First I've heard of this "crowd surge" though, which I also had to look up. Apparently it's different from a stampede—a space just gets so crowded with people, they start crushing one another and get asphyxiated. (A new thing for me to worry about when in a big crowd...)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:05 pm Reply with quote
DamianSalazar wrote:
This was probably to ward off all foreign streamers from being absolute nuisances to the Japanese public.
more than 100 people died during similar type of festive in south korea last year. it's understandable shibuya government didn't want to be the next place where it happen. those streamer is just annoyance, not potential disasters that would kill hundreds.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:14 pm Reply with quote
Additional context (before COVID broke out in 2020):

Shibuya intersection clogged (which if you're familiar with the 'Shibuya Scramble' is a very large intersection): animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-11-03/shibuya-sees-chaos-after-halloween-crowd-super-citizens-clean-up-morning-after/.94931

Increase in vandalism: http://4NN.cx/.108045

And then in 2018 there were multiple arrests: http://4NN.cx/.142141 and a small truck was turned over (this was referenced JJK)

This led to a bill passed in 2019 (http://4NN.cx/.148029) that banned drinking in public in Shibuya on Halloween and New Year's Eve.

Theoretically, IF partiers had shown up, they would have potentially been arrested if caught drinking in public.
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MrPuzzles



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:06 am Reply with quote
DamianSalazar wrote:
This was probably to ward off all foreign streamers from being absolute nuisances to the Japanese public.


Speaking of which, wasn't Johnny Somali finally charged a few days ago? It's high time his ass gets straight up banned from entering Japan altogether.
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so751



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:26 am Reply with quote
As a tourist who was in Shibuya over Halloween weekend and Halloween day, I would say, rather than a neutralizing effect for banning Halloween, it was actually more of a threatening feeling. There were full buses of police parking near the scramble crossing, and at one point, to cross a street in the back streets of Shibuya, we had to wait for a single file line of about 10-20 cops to walk past before we could proceed. There were also groups of 3-4 cops patrolling almost every block of the district.

They also blocked off areas like the Hachiko statue, tried to create singular one-way paths for people to go in, through, and out of Shibuya, which also made it extremely confusing for tourists unfamiliar with the area.

While I understand the effort to not have another Itaewon incident, it was honestly chaotic and oppressive, and made me not want to be in Shibuya at all regardless of Halloween festivities. It just completely ruined the spirit of the district imo.

Another way they could have done this is actually control the festivities and regulating how they went, instead of outright oppressing it... pretty conservative and old-fashioned way of dealing with this imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:22 pm Reply with quote
Derpinat0rz wrote:
Its the shibuya incident


I saw this and thought, "Well, somebody watches Jujutsu Kaisen." Laughing
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