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the-antihero
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Yada yada yada. I couldn't care less about anyone's status, if what they say sounds incorrect, then that's what it is. But because this is Anno, people started sucking his d to whatever he said and blindly agreed with him. Now he comes out and says he misworded his statements as he meant something else, I honestly don't see how he could have made such an error. Just admit you were wrong.
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bs3311
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An industry collapsing ALSO means that making said product in said industry would be difficult. He also gave a margin between 5 an around 20 years. I agree with the man, but I don't like that he is trying to reword it into something else poorly. Yes, anime needs to shift. From pandering to original material that makes it stand out. Oh, an less pretend seinens
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Lemonchest
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After making his remark, Akira Amemiya was (not) heard to whisper in Hideaki Anno's ear "so they'll work for nothing." Anno was impressed by his remark. Both men chortled. Joy was had. NGE 4.0 will never be released.
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Cptn_Taylor
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It's absurd how these people lack balls to stand behind their own freaking opinions. Oh sorry I said a,b and c but I actually meant d, e and f. 2 years later (economic conditions changed, industry in caso etc...), yeah but you guys misunderstood me, when I said d, e and f I actually really meant x, y and z. |
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MarshalBanana
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Well after Japans bubble economy burst at the end of the 80s, we saw a struggling industry in the first half of the 90s, yet after GITS it picked up really fast and the second half of the 90s and the first few years of the 00s were an amazing time.
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Hoppy800
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Who the heck got offended at his opinion? His comments actually stirred up discussion on how to save the industry. He didn't really need to backtrack.
The anime industry needs better business models focusing on streaming, a download service in the future, and of course the standard merchandising models, BDs/DVDs will not cut it anymore. On demand is not just today but the future of all media in the world except video games (as they've become too big in size and that future will be decades away). They also need to stop adapting the multitude of bad LNs and either cut out these adaptations or bring variety to the table. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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I take it that this is Mr. Anno's way of saying "Yes, I overreacted when I said that the [anime] industry would collapse; I'm sorry..."
Hideaki Anno: "Go see it in movies when you can. The main thing behind this is love from the fans." I would love to go a nearby cinema to watch an anime film. Unfortunately, when one is living in the U.S., there are a few instances that simply makes this task an impossibility... |
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Romuska
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I'm sorry what was that Mr. Anno? I could't hear you over my Eva 3.33 preorder not being fulfilled.
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Hameyadea
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Well, given the fact that Anno isn't a PR person, him using words that, while seem reasonable and appropriate to me to use, were understood as a Tinfoil Hat statement is quite possible. My guess is that after his interview back then, someone with PR knowledge gave him a verbal bludgeoning on the [do] & [not do] about those sort of things.
He elaborates on it in that interview (original Japanese) [Bolded for emphasis]
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H. Guderian
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Having seen the guy talk in documentaries, he isn't a master wordsmith. I'd let his actions talk louder than the words of one of the most well known Otaku in the world. |
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Jackanapes
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Really disappointed to hear him backtrack clumsily on this and reword it into a spend more money on anime kind of thing which sounds like the exact opposite set of intentions that I got off of his first commentary. Now I don't think he knows what the hell he's trying to say and from what perspective. I mean seriously how did we go from something like the anime industry will collapse unless it starts to produce more content not strictly and solely related to commercial interests (something I agree it's in dire need of as a medium) of a few months ago to the "It's often said that making anime is cheap... but even so, collecting money is an issue." of today.
I actually gained a bit of respect I never had for the guy for speaking out, but now he just sounds like a rambling fool a bit whose comments now even make less sense in his attempt to "clarify".
It's working on it with things like ACJ, but the fact that it's pretty much being spearheaded by the people that already kind of own just about everything to do with Japanese animation doesn't exactly fill me with a lot of confidence that things will change so much as we'll see a double down. I absolutely agree that the industry really could stand to cut down on strip-mining the LN/VN industry for ideas and key people, but right now they're deadlocked into this idea that that's the only model that can work and the only model that will ever work. The industry really needs a new modern work like a Yamato or Gundam (and I'm not just talking like the recent reboots of them but an actual new work) that can show the industry that there isn't just one and only one kind of model for success like those shows did which opened up anime to a realm beyond just children's entertainment. Recently and kind of eerily I feel like Love Live School Idol Project might be the work to do that, but I'm not sure how I feel about an unending deluge of low stakes dancing schoolgirls and multimedia music tie-ins as what looks like a new standard. It feels like a bit of a lateral move from Light Novels with annoying characters and almost no forward story progression. |
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Actar
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Well, as much as I like digital media, nothing will replace physical discs and I hope physical media won't go away. Honestly, there's really nothing more satisfying as a fan than holding a tangible copy of the show that you love (with all the bells and whistles) in your hands.
Again, this might be the old-fashioned guy in me talking again, but I just feel that it's much more worth it paying for a tangible object instead of digital media, something that you'll never be able to truly own. |
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Rederoin
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What the hell are pretend seinens?
While I agree it stupid to get offended at this, I also think that the industry does not need saving. Its doing fine atm, if that will change, well... thats a problem for the future.
Why? Aside from it replacing rentals(by 'renting' a stream? How would they even do that?), I don't think its something that would be more profitable(if it was, you'd see them move towards that kind of model). Not to mention shows already do get streamed on NicoNico.
Sure, maybe in the future. But not in the present. BD & DVDs still carry a lot of extras ontop of fans wanting to collect the physical releases.
Why? Because it boosts the LN sales and thus profitable.
Yet the majority of anime being adaptations 'model' seems to have worked for decades. We still get plenty of orginal anime, just because not all of them blow up like Gundam, madoka, macross, NGE, Love live etc.. does not mean they do not exist, it just means that people are not spending money on it en-mass. We got 7 original anime this season alone, -Sora ga Seiyuu -Chaos dragon -Symphogear -Woozer -Miss monochrome -Gatchaman Crowds Insigth -Charlotte Last edited by Rederoin on Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:47 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Dracom
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For those complaining about adaptations... adaptations are all part of something called Japan's Media Mix. Anime production has become more and more expensive and studios are not likely to risk a lot of money on an original project as a single failure could literally mean the end of the studio. Instead, they use light novels and manga as a means to gauge what is popular and subsequently animate the popular ones. This is beneficial as it creates a synergistic effect - people who get introduced to the franchise via the anime would buy the manga and fans of the manga would watch the anime.
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manapear
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I think he was right this time, and is correct this time. Really, as much as I love Toei and their series, they're a perfect example of how titles get treated. If the sponsorship isn't there, the show isn't done justice. Even when it is, studios can get cheap and/or lazy. There's a lot going on, that's for sure. For one thing, I think animators should get treated better and taken more seriously.
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