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Hikarunu
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 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:56 pm
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I thought loli porn is not illegal in Japan?
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Veniamin
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:58 pm
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I mean, as creepy as it sounds, he's right to create something from his imagination but if they're accusing him that he made some of the art similar to actual people then it's a very big red flag.
That's stalker material right there.
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HEY!
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:05 pm
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| Hikarunu wrote: | | I thought loli porn is not illegal in Japan? |
Seems like they are saying he based his drawings off of real child pornography and was quite realistic, so it makes sense that he was arrested. It wasn`t from his imagination.
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DuchessBianca
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:08 pm
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3D CG "releastic" loli art creeps me out, I love loli's and 2D art is adorable but I don't trust what some of the 3D stuff might be "inspired" from and if his art was realistic looking enough then I really don't want to know 
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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:09 pm
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| Hikarunu wrote: | | I thought loli porn is not illegal in Japan? |
I think if it is hand drawn, then they don't consider it illegal, as it does not look real. They say he made a realistic looking one.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:31 pm
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| HEY! wrote: | | Seems like they are saying he based his drawings off of real child pornography and was quite realistic, so it makes sense that he was arrested. It wasn`t from his imagination. |
I thought the article said it was based off of photos of an actual child, but not that the photos were pornography. I imagine it's kind of like, say, putting Justin Beiber's face on a photorealistic nude male body and selling it for...undisclosed reasons.
In this case, it seems like the likeness of the 3D face was so close to the original, that it was basically like making child porn of the girl in question. Plus, he was selling it, which just ups the ick factor. :/
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Hameyadea
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:42 pm
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According to the article, the artist he wasn't sentenced for having realistic-looking images; he was found guilty in violating the law that out of the 34 images the authorities have seized, 3 bore realistic resemblance to the original subject.
| HEY! wrote: | | Seems like they are saying he based his drawings off of real child pornography and was quite realistic, so it makes sense that he was arrested. It wasn`t from his imagination. |
I think you meant "photography" there.
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livinew
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:48 pm
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I mean, if it's based on real CP or if the images of the child strike an uncanny resemblance to an actual child that has actually been identified in real life and brought to the court's attention, and to top off the fact that it's CG and not manga, then you can say this was justified. And I guess it was justified was since the situation here was just that. They found pictures of real children and the CG looked exactly like them. If the characters are completely made up though, say it was based on an anime instead and not based on real CP or an actual child that has been identified, then this type of sentence would not be justified at all. It doesn't matter how creepy you find it since at the end of the day it would be just drawings.
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Snakebit1995
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:57 pm
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| Hikarunu wrote: | | I thought loli porn is not illegal in Japan? |
I think it has to do with how realistic the image is
something like this which is jsut a drawaing meant to be a character in a pose is fine 
The problem occurs when you bring in CG trying to make someone look like a real human like this 
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:58 pm
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If it's based off of an actual child, then I agree with such a sentence. For CG or something like To Love-Ru Darkness-style nudity, that's tricky.
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pluvia33
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:10 pm
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| Snakebit1995 wrote: |
| Hikarunu wrote: | | I thought loli porn is not illegal in Japan? |
The problem occurs when you bring in CG trying to make someone look like a real human like this.... |
Actually, that doesn't seem to be the case. You can make loli drawings as realistic as you want. The problem is when the drawing is identifiable as being based on an actual child. It's all fun and games until real children become involved, as it should be.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:14 pm
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| Hameyadea wrote: | | According to the article, the artist he wasn't sentenced for having realistic-looking images; he was found guilty in violating the law that out of the 34 images the authorities have seized, 3 bore realistic resemblance to the original subject.
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Exactly. I'm hoping people will actually read the article before commenting about how this is unfair because it seems like the court emphasized that the images still need to be identifiable to a real person.
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TsukasaHiiragi
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:18 pm
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| pluvia33 wrote: |
| Snakebit1995 wrote: |
| Hikarunu wrote: | | I thought loli porn is not illegal in Japan? |
The problem occurs when you bring in CG trying to make someone look like a real human like this.... |
Actually, that doesn't seem to be the case. You can make loli drawings as realistic as you want. The problem is when the drawing is identifiable as being based on an actual child. It's all fun and games until real children become involved, as it should be. |
I agree, as weird as this case sounds he crossed several lines that shouldn't be crossed and as such, the punishment should fit the crime. The problem is that Japans laws in this area are still growing and evolving so each time there is a legal case like this, the laws could change and become even stricter.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:33 pm
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I think the fact that he attempted to recreate a realistic-looking computer-graphic image of the underaged kid may have what landed him in the hot seat. If anything, this could be an indication of pedophilic tendencies getting worse.
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CoreSignal
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:51 pm
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| pluvia33 wrote: | | Actually, that doesn't seem to be the case. You can make loli drawings as realistic as you want. The problem is when the drawing is identifiable as being based on an actual child. It's all fun and games until real children become involved, as it should be. |
Yep. It's one thing to draw a realistic loli, it's another to make a realistic CG image based on a actual person. Maybe people will argue it's not child porn, but it's pretty darn close. Another thing to point out, this guy wasn't just doing it for his own use or giving it out to his friends, he was actually selling it, which increases the creep factor.
Furthermore, I wonder if it's possible that the girl, or woman now, could sue him for libel or some type of defamation, although I'm not sure how Japan's legal system handles this kind of thing.
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