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ookami
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I don't understand what you guys expect out of an animie aimed at little kids. I mean I would think if you wanted something deep you would go for something not for kids. Not that I am going to say the show is good, I did watch it because I'm a fan of Ken Akamatsu, but if you don't expect much of anything you can enjoy it somewhat at face value.
Also I don't see how you can blame love hina for tenchi's downfall. I think it was more of a case of shows just get old and fans want new stuff just like how love hina isn't as popular anymore. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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Yes, but since it's not advertised nor shown on TV for kids...
What little kid do you know that regularly has the money to buy DVD's at $30 a pop? And can his/her parents adopt me? |
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Craeyst Raygal
 Posts: 1383 Location: In the garage, beneath a 1970 MGB GT. |
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Love Hina came in at the weakest time in the Tenchi franchise's history (after the release of the second TV series and the third movie, both of which were radically different from standard Tenchi-fare) and captivated the less motivated viewing fanbase with a series that had more t*ts and less thoughts.
The viewership that would have been there for the series triumphant return to form this year was scattered and the Tenchi franchise was blown into the wind like so much dust. If it had been another old standby lke Oh My Goddess or a Rumiko Takahashi series that did it, I'd be less perturbed. But the fact that idiocy like Love Hina stole Tenchi's thunder is something I cannot forgive. |
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ookami
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Probably the same ones that get their parents to buy all those disney dvds? Maybe they are advertising it to a older crowd here because anime is more popular with them but its just going to result in poor sales I think. Btw I was refering to the target audience in Japan. |
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Godaistudios
Posts: 2075 Location: Albuquerque, NM (the land of entrapment) |
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By your statments there, one might infer that Tenchi's production values weren't strong enough, and again, since you mentioned the fanbase, doesn't that justify my point more?
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Nagisa
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 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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I can't wait to read your Azumanga Daioh review (if indeed, you did review it). If I recall correctly, that's one of your most hated series, and even though I myself am a die-hard fan, both your writing style and the more uptight fanboys' reactions will make AzuDai getting verbally torn apart quite the enjoyable experience. 
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
 Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Thanks, Nagisa, but the odds that Chris will let me review Azumanga Daioh are roughly that of a snowball in hell.
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space clam
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Man, Zac, you are definitely one of the funniest people I know. It's like when Game Informer comes; I'm more excited to read the bad reviews, because they're always the funniest.  Now whenever I think of Ken Akumatsu, I'll think of him dangling a steak with cheese and bacon in front of me. Then I'll punch him in the stomach, take his food, and run.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Thank you, Space Clam. Being told you're funny is, IMHO, the highest possible compliment.
-Z |
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Delthayre
 Posts: 414 Location: One of the good United States |
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I'm not as awed by the negativity as most, but I'm hard to shock, but you did give this as thorough a drubbing as any I've seen and I even though I haven't seen the series, I had very bad feelings looking at the cover.
Why in the name of something that doesn't make my skin crawl is there a screwed-up tank on the cover? And why is the title character, I guess that's who she is, dressed like a drum majorette for the Pastel High-School Marching Insipidity Band? That, and the whole marketting of this to and older, though a lot seem to be regressing to an unhealthy degree, crowd irks me. It's fine and I dare say admirable for a kids show to be able to entertain adults (The Fairly OddParents comes to mind), but a kids show that makes no pretense or effort toward entertaining anything but the rather/very young isn't something that works on two levels. It's something that makes the older audience drop a level. And I always like it when a reviewer is willing to be mean.
I agree with Space Clam's assesment of Zac and Zac's assesment of the compliment. |
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Stueypark
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Even though I'm not exactly a fan of the series and wasn't offended by the review, I did think it was a poor display of journalism.
Railing against poor stories and such is fine, but throwing insults against anyone who happens to like the show "an insipid exercise in stupidity for fans with horrifically low standards" and then covering himself against comments with statements like "Anyone who criticizes these shows for being lame and obnoxious are attacked and characterized as joyless sticks in the mud who can’t appreciate something for what it’s supposed to be" is simply poor writing. It would be like a sports writer saying anyone who roots for the Cubs must be a simpleton. |
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Nagisa
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Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Funny thing is, I've heard sportscasters do this. All the time. And without the wit and humour that Zac brings along with it. Granted, I was a bit miffed by Zac's "anyone that likes AzuDai is a complete pedophile without an ounce of intelligence or taste" remark. But that was ages ago and I've since gotten over it. |
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Stueypark
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well, being an Orioles and Redskins fan I don't tend to read sports writing too much, I can tell how much they stink without reading about it.
I generally wouldn't approve of any type of reviewer: food, sports, films, etc. railing against people for liking something. Heck, the anime community as a whole has a very poor ability to take criticism but is great at dishing it out for some reason. EDIT: The obvious exception being people who review doing that as a gimmick, like the movie reviewer, Mr. Cranky. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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"I did think it was a poor display of journalism."
Here we go again. I think every 2 or 3 reviews someone comes out of the woodwork and tells me i'm a bad writer/journalist/editor/cook or what-have-you because I said the word 'fan' in the article. I like to put things in to context. The show appeals to a specific type of fan; a fan who, in my opinion, has lowered his or her standards to the point where they'll accept trash like Mao-chan. It's a lamentable state, and I point that out. I don't think I really singled out or 'railed' on any specific person, just a general group attitude. Film critics do this all the time; question the audience and the state of pop culture when analyzing the conditions that would produce such a film. I also tend to think that anyone who comes in and stomps their feet and cries "bad journalism!" usually has made up his or her own rules about what "good" journalism is, and then holds the writer to those totally fabricated standards. Telling a writer that they're a bad writer or journalist is *really* insulting and an extremely serious complaint, and I take it very seriously. I mean, I don't come down to where you work and smack the deep fryer out of your hand. -Zac |
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Stueypark
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Auuugh, I've been impaled on the irony, help!
Ken Akamatsu dosen't come to where you work either, does he? And being a Health Department employee I can understand the assumption that I'd be inspecting the deep fat fryer but my area actually happens to be Tidal watersheds. |
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