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BrainBlow
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About time this came out subbed.
I just can't wait for the backlash wave about how it's the worst anime film ever. |
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Sahmbahdeh
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Has there been a listing of where this movie is going to be screened? I haven't seen anything yet to that effect.
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goatnuke
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I haven't seen it yet and will judge it on its own merits when I see it in theaters but honestly? I'm already pretty wary of the thing. It's been overhyped to hell and back which colors your perception whether you want it to or not. Sure, people might walk away impressed (I hope I do!) but it can also backfire if people expect too much. And honestly, I wouldn't blame them because the expectations are just way too high for this movie. |
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Jayhosh
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Same. Well you know how the cycle goes, it happens to the best of 'em. It's a shame, because the movie probably doesn't deserve much of any ire at all. I haven't seen it yet, but I highly doubt it's far out of line from anything Shinkai's previously done. Hell, I've heard many people who are fans of his say it's by far his best film to date. But since it's received so much more exposure and popularity than his previous ones, it's inevitable that it will be labelled as "overhyped" by a lot of people, or whatever other trendy buzzwords people are using currently.
^Exhibit A All jokes aside though, it's our job as viewers of film to be able to temper our expectations of things. It is possible, and building these things up to god-like status will only ruin great film experiences for you in the long run. The same thing happened with The Force Awakens. Regardless of what you think about the movie, people built up their expectation levels so high that literally no "Episode 7" could ever possibly meet them and impress everybody. So then you get the violent backlash after the fact. A similar situation will likely happen regarding Rogue One (although maybe not on the same ginormous scale), and then Episode 8 after that. It's a cruel, vicious cycle. But attempt to do as youtuber I Hate Everything does and learn to manage and temper your own expectations (check out his I LOVE THE FORCE AWAKENS video for a more in-depth discussion on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNuqCblsMDU). And don't expect every popular and praised film to be THE BEST FILM EVER MADE either. Because if you do that, you'll definitely always end up disappointed. I think that's the one that bugs me the most. Those people who seem to be under the impression that every well received film they watch must be the best films ever for it not to disappoint them. That's the epitome of falling prey to hype culture. Of course it probably won't be "the best movie ever" like a lot of people say, that's all just in-the-moment hyperbole, it's nothing new. It's okay to be critical of a film, but going into it expecting it not to be good or looking for every little flaw is equally as bad as a film being "overhyped." Which is never the film's fault itself, but the mass audience and individual viewer's. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Well, I saw it, liked it quite a lot, thought it ranks slightly behind The Place Promised in our Early Days as Shinkai-sensei's best movie and really hope people aren't disappointed because of the building expectations. I can't imagine anyone saying it is the Worst anime ever though, being very critical I think it would come out as average at worst. If you hated 5cm/s like I did, this is much better. I'm definitely waiting to see it again.
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goatnuke
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I disagree. I don't think there's any "responsibility" of a viewer consuming media for personal entertainment to do anything. If they're influenced by the press and fandom surrounding a piece of work then so be it, that's how it is. They did nothing wrong and to me it's the fault of fans and the press for building something up to unrealistic proportions. |
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relyat08
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You're right that people don't have a responsibility to be reasonable when it comes to entertainment, they can do whatever. But if you let hype dictate your opinions to a great extent, and ruin things for yourself because you can't temper your expectations, you are the only one to blame. You cannot put that blame on other people or press for being excited about something. That's simply asinine. People have every right to get excited about and talk about any piece of entertainment as much as they want, you have no business telling them otherwise. All you're doing at that point is invalidating their opinion. If they think it is the greatest thing ever, let them have their fun. If you can't manage your own expectations, that's entirely your problem. As for me, I am going to see this movie in theaters just as I was planning to before it ever started it's theatrical run in Japan, and all I can go on is how I felt about his prior works. Who knows, it could be great, or maybe it won't be. I don't really know. |
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Jayhosh
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Perhaps not a responsibility, but I think it's a wise rule of thumb. As in the end it's ultimately beneficial to your own experiences and enjoyment of the entertainment you consume. It's not like I'm actually saying you owe the media anything in particular. All I'm saying is to be wary of hype and manage your expectations to be more grounded and realistic. When I go and watch classic, highly praised films that have been on my to-watch list for ages, I don't go into every one of them expecting to be blown away or to expect the best movie ever made.
This is basically what I was saying in my first comment. Make sure you don't end up as one of those people who builds these things up in your mind to ridiculously high levels. And it's not even always the press building these things up, sometimes it's just an ANN article simply reporting on the film's box office success, but people see that and getting even more excited because of how popular it is. relyat08's comment explained it a lot better than I did. |
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goatnuke
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First off, you guys are using "you/your" like I'm talking about myself which I'm not... just talking the general public that doesn't care to think as critically about their entertainment.
I never said that people should place the blame on press/fans, only that it's completely understandable why people could see that and go into a piece of work with unrealistic expectations. For fans to then lash out at any dissension is pretty hypocritical. Anyway, I think you two (particularly "relyat08") are taking this way too seriously. Why do you even care what others think of something? Why is this even a discussion? It's not your business what others decide to do/think. Everyone is free to have their own approach and that doesn't make it right or wrong. It's borderline authoritarian to dictate otherwise. |
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Jayhosh
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It's just my point of view on hype culture, and maybe a suggestion of a different approach for anyone who consistently finds themselves disappointed with popular media. I'm not trying to force anything on anyone. If you (not referring to you specifically) maintain moderate expectations for things you're interested in, you end up finding yourself getting disappointed a lot less frequently.
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Snomaster1
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I don't think that "your name's" going to be a bad movie. We'll just have to wait and see. This thing seems to have a solid premise behind it so I hope it does show up,especially in a English language dub. Me,this is something like "Magical Beasts and Where To Find Them,"a movie that I want to see.
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relyat08
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If anyone is taking this too seriously, it would be someone who lets hype get to them that much. I also never mentioned you specifically, I'm talking in broad terms just as much as you are. But you are more or less the main instigator in this conversation. You literally said:
Which is a pretty obvious shift of blame to people who are just trying to enjoy a movie in their own way. And is totally skewed. Nah man, the blame is entirely on the dummies who take hype too seriously. And going back to your ironic and hilarious "why do you evens...?" Here you go: Why do you care about what other people think of a movie? Why is this even a discussion? It's not your business what others decide to do/think after they watch a movie. Everyone is free to be happy and excited about something if they want. It's borderline authoritarian to dictate otherwise. 
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