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NEWS: Last Yuri!!! on Ice TV Anime Blu-ray Tops Series Record in 1st-Week Sales




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ickybott555



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 11:23 pm Reply with quote
Y'all know everyone bought the last set for the YurixOtabek pairing. Good to see that we have a great chance for season 2. I pray we get the movie very soon in America.
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kazenoyume



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:11 am Reply with quote
ickybott555 wrote:
Y'all know everyone bought the last set for the YurixOtabek pairing. Good to see that we have a great chance for season 2. I pray we get the movie very soon in America.


Highly doubt it. I assume the jump was partly for that, but a lot for the other extras as well. Actually a big chunk of Jfandom was angry that they decided to focus on those two instead of doing a full length animated version of the Stammi Vicino Duetto. There was a lot of outrage over this on J twitter.

In my opinion they should have done both (full length Welcome to the Madness and full length Stammi duet), as Stammi Vicino was more plot and character relevant, and they certainly would have had the budget considering the popularity of the series.

YurioOtabek has a decent sized fandom in Japan, but it's not NEAR as big as it is in the Western fandom (where it's huge). It only just surpasses Yuuri/Yurio in popularity, and is literally maybe 10% as popular as Victor/Yuuri with Yurio himself being only a portion as popular as Yuuri, let alone Victor. He didn't quite hit it off in Japanese fandom the way he did in Western fandom.

So yeah, Mappa probably could have sold even more copies of this blu-ray, but I'm sure they're not exactly crying about this right now.
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CrowLia



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:53 am Reply with quote
kazenoyume wrote:


In my opinion they should have done both (full length Welcome to the Madness and full length Stammi duet), as Stammi Vicino was more plot and character relevant, and they certainly would have had the budget considering the popularity of the series.



Oh god, I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling like this. WttM looks glorious, I wish they'd completely reanimated the Duetto to make it look that good (it has some touch ups and they included a creditless version, but nothing compared to how fluid Yurio's EX is) and give us the full-length version. For example, the manga shows a small shot ofspoiler[ Yuuri actually lifting Victor] and I would've loved to see that animated.
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fencer_x



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 4:27 am Reply with quote
kazenoyume wrote:
ickybott555 wrote:
Y'all know everyone bought the last set for the YurixOtabek pairing. Good to see that we have a great chance for season 2. I pray we get the movie very soon in America.


Highly doubt it. I assume the jump was partly for that, but a lot for the other extras as well. Actually a big chunk of Jfandom was angry that they decided to focus on those two instead of doing a full length animated version of the Stammi Vicino Duetto. There was a lot of outrage over this on J twitter.

In my opinion they should have done both (full length Welcome to the Madness and full length Stammi duet), as Stammi Vicino was more plot and character relevant, and they certainly would have had the budget considering the popularity of the series.

YurioOtabek has a decent sized fandom in Japan, but it's not NEAR as big as it is in the Western fandom (where it's huge). It only just surpasses Yuuri/Yurio in popularity, and is literally maybe 10% as popular as Victor/Yuuri with Yurio himself being only a portion as popular as Yuuri, let alone Victor. He didn't quite hit it off in Japanese fandom the way he did in Western fandom.

So yeah, Mappa probably could have sold even more copies of this blu-ray, but I'm sure they're not exactly crying about this right now.


Hi. I'm in Japan and attend these fandom events and am part of "JTwitter" and can tell you not one of the Victuri people on my list was anything but thrilled with Yurio and Otabek getting some attention. You say it's only 10% of Victuri's popularity but that's just because Victor/Yuuri/Victor is insanely popular on its own. Yurio and Otabek are the second-most popular ship in the fandom. It's perfectly normal they'd give these two characters some attention.
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kazenoyume



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:44 am Reply with quote
fencer_x wrote:

Hi. I'm in Japan and attend these fandom events and am part of "JTwitter" and can tell you not one of the Victuri people on my list was anything but thrilled with Yurio and Otabek getting some attention. You say it's only 10% of Victuri's popularity but that's just because Victor/Yuuri/Victor is insanely popular on its own. Yurio and Otabek are the second-most popular ship in the fandom. It's perfectly normal they'd give these two characters some attention.


I'm not sure what's with the implication that I don't participate in Japanese twitter as well (as in, I'm not just pulling stuff from nowhere), but I suppose perhaps you didn't see any negative reactions on your list but--- there were a lot. Surely you at least saw the huge spurt of negativity in reaction to the announcement Pash (if I recall it was Pash, it was a bit back) did for WttM on their account last month. There were at least as many negative comments as positive ones. And yes, there were many more when the actual BD came out.

Yes it's the second most popular pairing but the gap is so immense that it's--- well--- there should really be an asterisk there. It's certainly not popular enough to warrant those sales numbers, which is what I was initially saying.

I actually said in my post that I thought they should have animated both pieces, so nowhere did I say NOT to give them attention. But considering the cost of these BDs, several hundred dollars if you want the whole set, it's only natural that some fans are frustrated that both the bonus manga AND the new footage were focused on one of the main cast (and the least popular of the three at that). It's honestly only fair that they should have split the bonus features among the three of them. I don't think that's too much to ask, especially considering the price of this stuff, that more than one character's fans be catered to.
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iamtooawesome



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 1:42 pm Reply with quote
I'm so proud of the fans who're supporting YOI since the beggining until now, cheers let's give ourselves a big round of applause. Yuri!!! On Ice has been crowned as the highest selling anime of 2016 and it's all thanks to the unending support of its fans all over the world. It made us love and appreciate ice skating, whilst it also became an inspiration to others. The ANN staffs who brought us all the awesome news of YOI, thank you so much for keeping us updated and thank you for all the article translations.

Great news! Steven Universe is also celebrating YOI, for the 1st time Victor, Yuri, Yurio, and Otabek made a cameo in the new Steven Universe Comics.

Cheers!
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SilverTalon01



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:12 pm Reply with quote
That is some crazy fujoshi purchasing power. I guess it probably helps to not have it spread over too many series, but mappa certainly did their job making it look good.
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CCTakato



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 3:52 pm Reply with quote
Yuri On Ice was my favorite anime of 2016 so I'm really glad to see it being such a big seller. Is Crunchyroll going to upload the BD masters when they come out in the U.S. or will they still keep the TV versions?
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razberry_yum



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 4:40 pm Reply with quote
SilverTalon01 wrote:
That is some crazy fujoshi purchasing power. I guess it probably helps to not have it spread over too many series, but mappa certainly did their job making it look good.


I honestly think the reason YOI is so popular is because the fanbase goes BEYOND the fujoshi crowd. After all, if the fujoshis were really this powerful, all actual yaoi series would be as popular as Yuri on Ice. But that's not the case, right?

Not that Yuri on Ice is even a yaoi series; and that is probably the reason why it touches so many different types of fans, it's first and foremost a sports anime which happens to feature a beautiful love story between two characters (or four) whom HAPPEN to be male. Fujoshis MIGHT be the more vocal faction of the fandom, but I really doubt they are the majority of it. Heck, even professional ice skaters have come out in support of Yuri on Ice.

And honestly, why is there such derision towards the fujoshi faction anyway? If fans are able to help a series become more visible, all the more power to that series. I don't see the animanga fandom really bashing fanboys for their purchasing power and devotion. I don't want to think that it's only ok for female fans to like and support a fandom as long as we don't buy anything or voice our affection in any way, but the negativity toward fujoshis in general is at times rather appalling to me. I would hate to think that it's based on some degree of sexism.
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Suena



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 5:54 pm Reply with quote
razberry_yum wrote:

I honestly think the reason YOI is so popular is because the fanbase goes BEYOND the fujoshi crowd. After all, if the fujoshis were really this powerful, all actual yaoi series would be as popular as Yuri on Ice. But that's not the case, right?

Maybe because actual yaoi series are generally kind of...crappy? Poor animation, tepid character development, and the actual erotic parts are rare and tame. Your average fujoshi would probably rather buy something thrilling (like Attack on Titan or Haikyu!!) and gloat over their favorite m/m ship (and buy tons of doujinshi), than waste their cash on a tepid & pastel "canon gay" project Studio DEEN pumped out on a shoestring budget.

(BTW, not trying to dismiss the larger reach of the series; it does certainly reach larger crowds as well)
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razberry_yum



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 6:25 pm Reply with quote
Suena wrote:

Maybe because actual yaoi series are generally kind of...crappy? Poor animation, tepid character development, and the actual erotic parts are rare and tame. Your average fujoshi would probably rather buy something thrilling (like Attack on Titan or Haikyu!!) and gloat over their favorite m/m ship (and buy tons of doujinshi), than waste their cash on a tepid & pastel "canon gay" project Studio DEEN pumped out on a shoestring budget.

(BTW, not trying to dismiss the larger reach of the series; it does certainly reach larger crowds as well)


That's another thing, if the fujoshi buying power is that potent, why don't the studios create better yaoi series? Their sales would be astronomical, you would think. Again, I don't count Yuri on Ice as being a yaoi series, but you would think that there would be actually more high quality yaoi anime by now. Kinda strange and interesting that there hasn't been any, and that's why a gay-friendly series like YOI is in fact ground-breaking.
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Lord Oink



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 8:00 pm Reply with quote
razberry_yum wrote:
That's another thing, if the fujoshi buying power is that potent, why don't the studios create better yaoi series?


People who say 'because yaoi anime is bad' are generally westerners who cry foul in tropes like seme/uke or molestation, not understanding thats what actual ( aka Japanese ) fujoshi are into. The reason why you don't see sales for actual BL like that is the same you never see amazing sales for pervy otaku fare either. It's a niche market for a reason.

Look at the top selling anime of all time and it's filled with shows that appeal to a general anime fan audience.

http://www.someanithing.com/1

Bake, Madoka, Gundam, Fate, Osomatsu, KyoAni stuff. You gotta get down to the 10ks to see stuff like High School DxD. Yaoi does even worse than that. The reason YOI does better than yaoi is because YOI has mainstream appeal. Super Lovers does not.
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chaccide



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:23 pm Reply with quote
Any word on when the series will be released in the US?
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razberry_yum



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:44 pm Reply with quote
chaccide wrote:
Any word on when the series will be released in the US?


I'm constantly waiting for Funimation to make the announcement; I hope they release it before the end of the year. I also hope they release the boxed set right off the bat...I spent too much money buying the individual Japanese BDs only to have them then announce the release of the boxed set in Japan with all the extras. URGH. I seriously wanted to cry.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:20 am Reply with quote
It was a certainly BL-like series (not being into such a genre is why I dropped it about 7 episodes in). I don't think any original anime has ever sold this well on BD/DVD. Now, if we can get a boy/girl romance original anime to sell at least a quarter of those overall sales.
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