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theNightster
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well it's nice the announcements aren't delayed at the very least
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Rowzy
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good grief. It means that it's really important
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ultimatehaki
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Hope he actually has a plan this time
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cookiemanstah
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was bleach a fuckery because tite kubo lost interest/sucks at writing (or at the least, degraded) or was it the higher ups problem? |
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Punch Drunk Marc
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Both. The latter was influenced by the former. Kubo is pretty much on record saying that he doesn't really take direction well and had problems with some editors before the end. |
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cookiemanstah
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was bleach a fuckery because tite kubo lost interest/sucks at writing (or at the least, degraded) or was it the higher ups problem?[/quote] Both. The latter was influenced by the former. Kubo is pretty much on record saying that he doesn't really take direction well and had problems with some editors before the end.[/quote] how did it become such a money maker anyway?? |
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Chaotic-Overlord
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The first major arc, Soul Society. A lot of people jumped on board for that, then never jumped off when the quality started to dip, hoping it'd go back up again. |
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Ensaru64
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The quality didn't start to dip at that point. Bleach's popularity was at an all-time high after that. For whatever reason, after the Aizen plot got resolved and the anime was out of the way, fans began to be overly-critical of the series under the wrong assumption that Aizen was the final villain and culmination of the series. The Fullbring Arc is considered Bleach weakest point, but even then it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be (it wasn't bad at all. It's similar to the fishman island arc from One Piece in terms of being of a smaller scale, but with more relevance for the plot going forward). It's basically coming down to the final quarter of the final arc that things started to get inconsistent, in addition to fans criticising Bleach's slow pacing for a weekly series; and then there was Kubo's burnout. Stuff like a certain plot device that was foreshadowed chapters ago but was suddenly introduced without much development to wrap up the series in 5 more chapters kinda ruined everything at that point. |
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theNightster
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Kubo was sick near the end which is why it ended in a rushed manner but hopefully if it’s the anime they expand upon shit and have things make sense or have the last fight be less lame
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LegitPancake
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Will the new manga also be published in Weekly Shonen Jump?
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AceLuffy4Ever
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Does this means, the announcement is only for his new work and no chance of a Bleach Anime revival
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theNightster
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read the article again
anime or no anime whatever was going to be announced at Anime Japan will still be announced on this stream |
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BadNewsBlues
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No it wasn't Kubo had some really janky ideas that either never paid off or made next to no sense and this was well before the final arc. Apparently when you keep doing stuff like this it turns off your audience and effects sales somewhat.
.....Which is essentially him admitting the faults with the series was his own since some parts of the series would've benefited from him listening to his editor and some degree of self awareness on his part.
......Wasn't Kubo essentially given essentially the same deal the creators of Lost were given when that series started getting out of control and losing it's audience? But unlike the former Kubo didn't really stick the landing? |
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dragon695
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He had 4 years to finish the last arc, which he could of done if he kept to economical storytelling instead of thinking he could drag it out. I am certain he was warned and chose to ignore those warnings. Like others have said, he has a reputation of not listening to his editors and winging it when it comes to story. Even if not entirely accurate, Bakuman is still representative of how WSJ works. You can’t expect your first series to continue to take up real estate in the premier publication unless your tank sales and poll ratings justify it. The longer it runs, the more justification is required. The problem is fans did not respond well to the later arcs. It was peak Kubo to think that he could continue for many years after Naruto wrapped up (which was selling 2x or more tanks than Bleach and consistently topped the reader polls unlike Bleach). Again, he *should* have been focusing on executing a tight, crisp narrative for the final arc to really wow fans instead of the morass that just seemed to drag on. Basically, he needs to have someone plan and write the story to allow him to just focus on what he is good at, which is his art. |
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Scion Drake
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The final arc was weird.
Like he was really burning out & sick but he still devoted an unnecessary amount of chapters to fights that in the grand scheme of things where honestly superfluous. Like we really didn't need Shunsui's fight to end with him fizzling out leaving Nanao to handle things as we get a bunch of of multi-chapter reveals about her backstory & why her clan is so special but he did for some reason. Which ended backfiring hard as when the manga was finally canceled he wound rushing the parts that actually mattered, ergo Ichigo's final battle with Ywach. |
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