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NEWS: Anime NYC's COVID-19 Tracing Provides Early Look at Omicron Variant's Transmissibility




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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:16 am Reply with quote
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Anime NYC's rules only required one vaccination, and the convention's website stated that "you can attend immediately after your first dose."

So far I had had a favorable impression of Anime NYC's vaccine requirement, but seems I have must missed that.Confused

That's bad. The normal, at least here in Finland, is, you have both sets of shots, or, one shot and a negative test/already had covid previously, when attending larger venues.

Also, a vaccine needs an average 10 days to give full protection.
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Kaylee Smerbeck



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:36 pm Reply with quote
I regret going even though my fiancee and I are fully vaxxed masked indoors and didn't go to parties
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 8:24 pm Reply with quote
FWIW everybody I know already tested negative

The Minnesota guy said in his Good Morning America interview that he thinks he may have gotten it outside the convention while hanging out with friends (though that doesn't mean he couldn't have infected others while in the convention, depending on when he hanged out with his friends - whether it's before or after the convention was over)
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Covnam



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:34 pm Reply with quote
I'm surprised that there was such a wide distribution of attendees.

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and the convention's website stated that "you can attend immediately after your first dose."


I don't know what the NY/NYC requirements are for being considered vaccinated, but that's an irresponsible thing to have on their site. Vaccines take time to be effective and should not be presented otherwise.
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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:46 pm Reply with quote
Covnam wrote:
I don't know what the NY/NYC requirements are for being considered vaccinated, but that's an irresponsible thing to have on their site. Vaccines take time to be effective and should not be presented otherwise.


I visited NYC prior to the con in mid-November. If you want to eat indoors, you have to show your vaccination card. Absolutely mandatory. I assume that you had to have both shots (or one in the case of J&J) since, at the time, booster shots were just rolling out.

Someone coming in and infecting everyone is what upsets me as all of these conventions seem like they want to return to full, in person capacity in 2022. While I understand the need to hold an in person event in order to stay afloat, at the same time I would like for them to limit the amount of attendees present. Having events like Anime Expo where over 100,000 people attended in 2019 is a great way to expose a large amount of people to whatever variant will be out by then. Increase the event price and lower the amount of people who can attend. That and enforcing masking and vaccinations are the best ways to feasibly keep people safe.
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omoikane



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:07 am Reply with quote
Having 1 dose as a requirement is pretty good--for people not keeping track most cons in the USA don't require vaccination like ANYC does.

The data still shows having 1 dose significantly reduces the severe outcome of COVID-19, versus no dose at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:24 am Reply with quote
I was just telling my friend we're going to run out of greek characters to name all the different variants. If word gets out that anime cons are fueling more infections, they're gonna start naming variants after anime characters!
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Aresef



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:18 pm Reply with quote
Blanchimont wrote:
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Anime NYC's rules only required one vaccination, and the convention's website stated that "you can attend immediately after your first dose."

So far I had had a favorable impression of Anime NYC's vaccine requirement, but seems I have must missed that.Confused

That's bad. The normal, at least here in Finland, is, you have both sets of shots, or, one shot and a negative test/already had covid previously, when attending larger venues.

Also, a vaccine needs an average 10 days to give full protection.


ANYC's rules were the same as New York City's rules at the time. I didn't realize this until I got there (and, full disclosure, I was crew), I thought you needed to be fully vaccinated under the city's rules. Like Patient Zero, though, I was boosted.

It seems like a lot of cons are going with rules seldom tighter than their locality. I was at Otakon, they had a mask mandate in place before a new district-wide one came down a week or so before the con. After that, they made slight tweaks to their mask policy (like no longer allowing you to take it off for photos). They should, like all cons, have had a vaccine mandate but, credit where credit's due, there were no outbreaks I'm aware of that linked back to the con. Or, for that matter, to Awesomecon, held a week later (and run by ANYC's organizers) at the same venue. There were a lot of things that the convention center was doing that the Javits Center was not. Or, if they were, they weren't very obvious about it.

MAGFest is also an exception, everybody needs to be fully vaccinated to attend.
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:32 am Reply with quote
Cutiebunny wrote:
Covnam wrote:
I don't know what the NY/NYC requirements are for being considered vaccinated, but that's an irresponsible thing to have on their site. Vaccines take time to be effective and should not be presented otherwise.


I visited NYC prior to the con in mid-November. If you want to eat indoors, you have to show your vaccination card. Absolutely mandatory. I assume that you had to have both shots (or one in the case of J&J) since, at the time, booster shots were just rolling out.

Someone coming in and infecting everyone is what upsets me as all of these conventions seem like they want to return to full, in person capacity in 2022. While I understand the need to hold an in person event in order to stay afloat, at the same time I would like for them to limit the amount of attendees present. Having events like Anime Expo where over 100,000 people attended in 2019 is a great way to expose a large amount of people to whatever variant will be out by then. Increase the event price and lower the amount of people who can attend. That and enforcing masking and vaccinations are the best ways to feasibly keep people safe.


That is definitely a frustration I share. I get that various businesses and/or activities need in-person participation to continue to be viable. But we're well beyond the point where things can be done "normally." Covid precautions are going to have to be a thing for public events, and the bigger they are, they stricter they will probably have to be since large gatherings are always going to present a greater opportunity for transmission.
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Piglet the Grate



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:39 pm Reply with quote
Covnam wrote:
Vaccines take time to be effective and should not be presented otherwise.


The CDC standard is consider yourself not vaccinated until 10 days after the second SARS-CoV-2 vaccine does (at least it was when I had the shots this summer).

The only way to have large gatherings without virus transmission would be to have everyone properly use OSHA Class C or higher PPE, which is not going to happen.
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