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cchigu



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:24 pm Reply with quote
Yona best female character and Wakamiya Shinobu best supporting female character.

Wtf. Heavily disagree with these. Yona is such an uninteresting typical shojo heroine, and I am pretty sure Hak is reason why much of the readers love the manga anyway. As for Shinobu, just going by the stuff which happened in the anime, she doesn't really stand out from a typical anime rival. I mean she is a much more likeable character than a certain heroine who keeps on blueballing the audience with her undecisiveness but still, I am pretty sure there are many better female supporting characters out there.
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Casval Rem Deikun



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:27 pm Reply with quote
"Special jury award: Guts from Kentarou Miura's Berserk"

Put a nice smile on face. Still hits me every time though when I think about Miura-sensei.
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MFrontier



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:35 pm Reply with quote
cchigu wrote:
Yona best female character and Wakamiya Shinobu best supporting female character.

Wtf. Heavily disagree with these. Yona is such an uninteresting typical shojo heroine, and I am pretty sure Hak is reason why much of the readers love the manga anyway. As for Shinobu, just going by the stuff which happened in the anime, she doesn't really stand out from a typical anime rival. I mean she is a much more likeable character than a certain heroine who keeps on blueballing the audience with her undecisiveness but still, I am pretty sure there are many better female supporting characters out there.

I love Hak and their relationship but Yona's had an amazing amount of character development.
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lys



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:51 pm Reply with quote
Agreed with MFrontier! Yona's fantastic. Something I especially like about Hak is his ready acknowledgement of and respect for her strengths. I get a thrill every time she steps forward to take control of a situation with composure and grace; I also admire the realism of her emotions and struggles under great pressure and dire circumstances. I loved her even from her weakness in the very first chapters, following her through the immense shock, grief, and trauma of the events that kicked off the story and appreciating that this wasn't a state she could or should just quickly snap out of to go on and be heroic. It's been a fascinating journey to follow her on.
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Cutiebunny



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:52 pm Reply with quote
MFrontier wrote:
I love Hak and their relationship but Yona's had an amazing amount of character development.


I agree. Definitely not the typical shoujo anime heroine. She's been through a lot of rough stuff but she consistently urges peace at all costs, even if it means taking the side of the man who killed her father.
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whiskeyii



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:57 pm Reply with quote
cchigu wrote:
Yona best female character and Wakamiya Shinobu best supporting female character.

Wtf. Heavily disagree with these. Yona is such an uninteresting typical shojo heroine, and I am pretty sure Hak is reason why much of the readers love the manga anyway.


I think this might depend on how old you are, really. If you're like me and you're old enough to remember Basara, Yona might not seem quite so novel, but even then I'd say Yona feels quite a bit more political compared to a lot of the shoujo stories we're seeing licensed (I hesitate to say "adapted" because who knows what we're not seeing), and she feels a lot closer to the heroines of the 90's and early 2000's to me than most modern-day heroines, who feel much "cuter" to me, for lack of a better term (I don't mean this in a derogatory way, I just don't know a better way to compare the two; 90's/00's heroines just seemed to be pricklier overall, I suppose.)
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cchigu



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:38 am Reply with quote
Nev999 wrote:
I mean, considering there was even some random out of nowhere potshot at Chihaya for being 'indecisive' when she decided on who she liked early on, wasn't aware the other person liked her, and rejected him when said person confessed (as he was aware she would), and was always more focused on the sport at the center of the anime anyway, I don't think there's much going on here beyond "I just want to rage at the female characters".
Yeah, you got me. I just hate females. Nothing to do with what my perception of what makes a good character writing.

I agree with you all that Yona has gone through a lot of character development but even with that she is still as perfect of a shoujo MC with close to zero human flaws. As for Wakamiya Shinobu, I would retract my statement since I have incomplete knowledge of her character since I am not caught up with the latest events in the source material.

That said though, there have been a lot of phenomenal female characters in recent manga who, in my opinion, are much better choices. MCs of Yagate Kimi ni Naru, Kawamoto Sisters,
characters from Otoyomegatari, etc.
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