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NEWS: Mawaru Penguindrum Anime BDs/DVDs Delayed 1 Month




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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:57 am Reply with quote
As of episode five, the show, being initially "promising", turns out be a disappointment.

The focus went to unlikeable, mentally ill (I do not mean a name-calling here, I refer to the shown depiction of her mental state and of her actions) character, which has nothing to do with the core concept, except for condition that main heroes are supposed to retrieve something from her.

This is rather irritating. But even little things are irritating, too, like small child version of one of main male heroes (sharp eyes teenager brother) talking with the voice of thirty five year old man. This voice is blatantly too old for teenage versions of the hero, too. And the father of the aforementioned girl talks with voice of sixty year old man, while depicted being decades younger.
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:20 am Reply with quote
If you don't think Ringo has any connection to the "core concept", then you're dead wrong.

Kimura Suburu, voice of Kanba was born in 1990, as shown on his ANN encyclopedia page (Shouma has the older seiyuu, age 27)
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Veers



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:23 am Reply with quote
Well, if the delay means a better product is released, it's probably for the best in the long run, right?

MaxSouth wrote:
character, which has nothing to do with the core concept, except for condition that main heroes are supposed to retrieve something from her.
Completely wrong.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:12 pm Reply with quote
As I said above, this impression is as of episode five. If eventually this mentally ill girl has actual relation to the core concept, then this is half good and half bad news. The good part is because the whole thing makes better sense, and the bad thing is that the "storytelling" is bad. At this stage, you can not guess that this character is something more than a side-story annoyance, with the core concept being established already in the beginning (spoiler[to be about an unknown "magic girl"-hat who revives the sister and repeatedly asks the brothers to do random tasks for her; the annoying girl is nowhere to be seen in this concept.])

As to age issue, 27 years old man has to have really youthful sounding voice to be able to voice a teenager, and this is not the case. But if the voice would be youthful, then still there is no way how a small child can be voiced with an adult male voice (with some rarest exceptions). So it is double "crime" of awkwardness with choice of voice actor for one of the brothers.
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:29 pm Reply with quote
Perhaps you think the storytelling in Penguindrum is bad, but I like being treated like an adult for once. Being able to try and connect the dots between the characters and the several layers of mystery contained in the show is part of the fun. Not to mention there being tons of symbolism and allegory (especially in the latest episodes) to try and figure out as well. If someone would rather have their hand held and have everything explained up front, then yes, the storytelling would be "bad" according to that person.

Even up until episode 5, one should have figured that the "core concept" of Penguindrum deals with fate/destiny.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:25 pm Reply with quote
Being treated like an adult is not tied with having part of the story told in the form side-story annoyance. There are countless examples in art when viewer/listener/reader is treated like an adult (no explanations of every little thing, heroes do not talk nonsense, dramatic twists do not contain lame childish excuses) but yet the "storytelling" does not give an impression of poorly glued together irrelevant pieces.

As to core concept, at this stage, Ringo girl's plot is a parody on this "fate/destiny" thing, so one could not possibly take this seemingly side-story to be something more than this. Things might unfold in the coming episodes, but this is not an excuse for structuring the story the way it is until now.

Talking of episode six, it is too typical that abusive, violent, insane character goes through the stage of building viewers' sympathy towards her. "Oh, poor baby, you were not happy as child, so we excuse you for being a *****". This never works, however: having hardships in the past and being this terrible have nothing to do with each other and do not excuse this behaviour.

That said, in none of these paragraphs above in this post or earlier there is a "verdict" about the project. How much impact these noticed lacks will have on the overall impression after whole twenty four episodes, remains to be seen.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:03 am Reply with quote
I am still rolling eyes Rolling Eyes every times I hear small kids talk with pubescent/adult voices. This is either ridiculous nonsense, or uniquely rare but severe hormonal dysfunction that is system-wide and that can lead to possibly lethal outcome.

It is now similar to One Piece after it skipped two years. There are rare cases of delayed puberty (see Justin Bieber who really got the voice changed at the age of 17) so I could understand why Luffy was talking with high voice at age of 17. But now he is already 19, so still talking with the thin voice means that, again, this became pathetic nonsense, or the character suffers from medical conditions that include infertility.

What authors are thinking?
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:06 am Reply with quote
Forced drama with "Child Broiler" nonsense does not help either.

What does help -- not with making sense, but to watch this anime -- is music, some pieces of which are really good.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:43 am Reply with quote
MaxSouth, use the Edit button instead of double- or triple-posting.

Cheers.
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