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NEWS: New York Times Manga Best Seller List, September 27-October 3 [2015-10-09]




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Swiftyy



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:51 pm Reply with quote
YES! Glad to see that The Ancient Magus Bride is still holding a spot on the list, very much deserved. If there is ever a manga that deserves to be on peoples radar, it's this one. There's a reason that is was chosen as one of the top manga to read in 2015, and if you've read it you'll understand.
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AksaraKishou



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:54 pm Reply with quote
Haganai still rocking despire everyone hating it xD

... still prefer the LN.
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CallumKeyblade



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:58 pm Reply with quote
Ancient Magus Bride & My Hero Academia both doing so well without any anime is great to see.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:12 pm Reply with quote
What the heck is going on with Attack on Titans #1? It's been jumping from top 5 to not even on the list back to top 5 again and again over the last couple months or so. Almost makes me think something shady is going on, especially since it's been listed for over 2 years now.

This man is a prophet:
sim0n2170 wrote:
myskaros wrote:
Nice to see Titans off the list again, haha.


Watch it come back next week.
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malvarez1



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:13 pm Reply with quote
I feel like a lot of the manga in this list have been around for a while. I guess the same things tend to sell, with a nice surprise once in a while.
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infamoustakai



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:48 pm Reply with quote
myskaros wrote:
What the heck is going on with Attack on Titans #1? It's been jumping from top 5 to not even on the list back to top 5 again and again over the last couple months or so. Almost makes me think something shady is going on, especially since it's been listed for over 2 years now.


I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Despite its popularity, I find it extremely hard to believe Attack on Titan #1 is still selling this well. Either something fishy is going on, or only selling 100 or so copies constitutes a volume being in the top 10 for manga. I know manga isn't the most popular thing in the world, but it's grown exponentially over the past few years, so I highly doubt it's the latter of the two.
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Ali07



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:08 pm Reply with quote
Is it possible that AoT 1 is getting new printings? Not sure if that would explain it though. Still, welcome back to the top 10! Laughing

I'm very pleased to see that Ancient Magus' Bride is still in the top 10. I've yet to get around to reading volume 2 myself, as I'm working through a novel at the moment, but I loved the 1st volume and I'm happy to see I'm not alone in that.
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illusory



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:00 pm Reply with quote
infamoustakai wrote:
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Despite its popularity, I find it extremely hard to believe Attack on Titan #1 is still selling this well. Either something fishy is going on, or only selling 100 or so copies constitutes a volume being in the top 10 for manga. I know manga isn't the most popular thing in the world, but it's grown exponentially over the past few years, so I highly doubt it's the latter of the two.

I have a bad feeling this is what's going on. It's probably more than ~100, maybe even over ~1000, but I doubt it's a significantly high amount. I'm really happy for AoT's success but it's disturbing to see its first volume outsell new manga volumes that are in their first few weeks of release because it makes me wonder how much they're actually selling...
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Exalted Incarnate



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:38 pm Reply with quote
Does anyone think if Tokyo ghoul 2 gets popular enough the animators my redo square root of A? Because it was really messed up.
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SereneChaos



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:06 pm Reply with quote
illusory wrote:
infamoustakai wrote:
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Despite its popularity, I find it extremely hard to believe Attack on Titan #1 is still selling this well. Either something fishy is going on, or only selling 100 or so copies constitutes a volume being in the top 10 for manga. I know manga isn't the most popular thing in the world, but it's grown exponentially over the past few years, so I highly doubt it's the latter of the two.

I have a bad feeling this is what's going on. It's probably more than ~100, maybe even over ~1000, but I doubt it's a significantly high amount. I'm really happy for AoT's success but it's disturbing to see its first volume outsell new manga volumes that are in their first few weeks of release because it makes me wonder how much they're actually selling...


This quote is a few years old by now and the market has definitely grown since, but someone at Vertical said that a manga selling 3,000 units is considered great (for them at least). And I swear I heard quite a while ago that the English Attack on Titan volume 1 has already sold upwards of 100,000 units. So it's a combination of the American manga market (and the American comic market overall) being incredibly small and Attack on Titan being incredibly large. Pair these reasons with the weeks when nothing big is released, and it's perpetually filling in the blanks.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:08 am Reply with quote
Wait till ICv2 releases the quarterly top graphic novel sales list (not just manga) to get an idea how manga sales are going.
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sim0n2170



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:33 am Reply with quote
myskaros wrote:
What the heck is going on with Attack on Titans #1? It's been jumping from top 5 to not even on the list back to top 5 again and again over the last couple months or so. Almost makes me think something shady is going on, especially since it's been listed for over 2 years now.

This man is a prophet:
sim0n2170 wrote:
myskaros wrote:
Nice to see Titans off the list again, haha.


Watch it come back next week.

teehee
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gustave154



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:41 pm Reply with quote
Nice to see One Punch Man 1 and 2 back on the list!
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Agafin



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:20 am Reply with quote
myskaros wrote:
What the heck is going on with Attack on Titans #1? It's been jumping from top 5 to not even on the list back to top 5 again and again over the last couple months or so. Almost makes me think something shady is going on, especially since it's been listed for over 2 years now.

Oh come on, why would they do that? It's very obvious why AoT vol.1 has jumped back to the Top. The live action movies were released in US theaters starting last week (or the week before that) so obviously the promos and buzz associated with them has caused some casuals to pick up the manga a lot lately. Kodansha probably made rerints for the occasion.

And to be honest, even without the movies, it wouldn't be surprising for AoT vol.1 to still top or appear on the list. Why? Because it's extremely mainstream and is still relatively new. AoT is more popular than the manga medium itself which is why its 100th week can dwarf the first week of a series that could be considered semi popular by manga standards, since as I said, AoT has already transcended that standard and is closer to US comics (popularity wise) than it is to manga (excluding other mega hits like Naruto or Death Note).

Just look at the US manga print values of 2013 and 2014:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZRSRznAA_dXrsOoI4c3T0caI81oru9nvWOPtJjtph4o/edit?pli=1#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11J68lFHKKUOgbOmkJmnfYl3f9n7OA89GU2z3x4O8JCw/edit?usp=sharing&pli=1

In 2014, AoT v1 left nearly everything else far behind even doubling and tripling Naruto and Fairy Tail respectively, two very popular series as well and by now it has over 120k copies in circulation which is waaaay higher than anything lately.

Now you might ask me, why doesn't Naruto stay on the list for a dozen of weeks as well. The answer is simple. Naruto at this point is more frontloaded than AoT. It has already reached saturation point whereas AoT is still recruiting fans. So Naruto's recent volumes probably sell a lot in their first and fall sharply lately later on whereas AoT vol.1 doesn't sell nearly as much in a single week, but keeps that number more or less constant over a long period of time as it steadily picks up new fans, making it last longer on the list. This is also why TG vol. 1 has stayed on the list for a long time and is also why subsequent AoT volumes don't have the lasting power of vol.1 (they are more frontloaded since they're mostly bought by people who are already hardcore fans and collectors).

This phenomenon by the way, shouldn't make you think that the industry is in bad shape, just that that given title is doing extremely week. In Japan for example, My Neighbour Totoro has been on Oricon's weekly DVD lists for more than 700(!) weeks and still counting. It still frequently appears on the list and even tops it sometimes (during slow weeks) nearly 15 years after it was released. Yet the anime DVD market couldn't be in better shape, accounting for nearly 70% of the whole Japanese DVD market.

With that being said, expect Naruto volume 72 to stay on the list for a loooong time since it's gonna be bought by everybody, not just hardcore fans.
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Dayblack



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:53 pm Reply with quote
Exalted Incarnate wrote:
Does anyone think if Tokyo ghoul 2 gets popular enough the animators my redo square root of A? Because it was really messed up.


The problem is that the author would not follow the manga, not the studio. Besides the anime it will never be popular because everyone prefers the manga.
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